Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ticket #55 - Clarify legal and privacy implications of failure reports

Jim Fenton <fenton@bluepopcorn.net> Wed, 30 December 2020 23:22 UTC

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From: Jim Fenton <fenton@bluepopcorn.net>
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ticket #55 - Clarify legal and privacy implications of failure reports
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On 29 Dec 2020, at 12:59, John Levine wrote:

> In article <14d833ce-0ae0-f818-fd4f-95769266a8e0@mtcc.com> you write:
>>
>> On 12/29/20 12:10 PM, John Levine wrote:
>>> A lot of tiny non-profits like Girl Scout troops use email addresses
>>> at webmail providers and send their announcements through ESPs like
>>> Constant Contact and Mailchimp.  This is yet another situation where
>>> DMARC can't describe an entirely normal mail setup.
>>>
>>> Constant Contact apparently got Yahoo to give them a signing key,
>>> at least temporarily, but that doesn't scale.
>>
>> What gmail does for gsuite is generates (or not, who knows) a key and
>> gives you the selector to add to your dns. I don't see why that 
>> doesn't
>> scale for all situations.
>
> To point out the obvious, because they use a single address at
> yahoo.com or gmail.com or hotmail.com, not a private domain. These are
> tiny organizations that don't have a lot of computer expertise nor a
> lot of need for it.

But these Girl Scout troops are going to publish a DMARC policy despite 
their lack of expertise?