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Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-08

"Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com> Fri, 29 January 2021 16:21 UTC

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From: "Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 08:21:19 -0800
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-08
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 6:52 AM Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I suggest adding it to this paragraph:
>
>    This document specifies experimental updates to the DMARC and PSL
>    algorithm cited above, in an attempt to mitigate this abuse.
>

update to DMARC = yes; update to PSL = no


> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 1:44 AM Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 5:01 PM Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Since this is an experiment, Appendix A discusses the updates that
>>> happen.  we don't actually say explicitly "if the experiment is a success,
>>> the following changes will be made" and perhaps I should add some wording
>>> like that.
>>>
>>
>> Something like this, perhaps?
>>
>> "A standards track update to [RFC7489] will take into account the results
>> of this experiment."
>>
>> ... somewhere in Section 1.
>>
>
A normative dependency from an experimental spec imposed upon a standards
track spec seems like a bad idea to me. At the very least it would impose a
timing constraint that DMARCbis could not be "completed" until after the
PSD experiment is "completed", analyzed and consensus achieved.

--Kurt

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