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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Comment on draft-ietf-dmarc-psd

"Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com> Mon, 11 November 2019 22:51 UTC

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From: "Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 14:51:17 -0800
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Comment on draft-ietf-dmarc-psd
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On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 12:43 PM Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> wrote:

>
> about the need for each OD to opt out by defining its own DMARC record,
> lest
> have reports delivered to the realm.  In the latter sense, Nominet solved
> the
> problem of what rights has gov.uk on domains below it.
>

Requiring "trick" authoritative name servers at the realm level is a/the
solution?!? If so, let's just drop all this I-D noise and get it all done.
That would also solve .bank's problem because they would not have to
"publish" any records contravening ICANN's requirements. They would only
have to "serve" them as responses.

--Kurt

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