Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601
John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Mon, 30 March 2020 21:23 UTC
Return-Path: <johnl@iecc.com>
X-Original-To: dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363B03A1357
for <dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 14:23:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: 0.05
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.05 tagged_above=-999 required=5
tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1,
DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25,
SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1536-bit key)
header.d=iecc.com header.b=WKMI/EYj;
dkim=pass (1536-bit key)
header.d=taugh.com header.b=CNCiAm17
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44])
by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
with ESMTP id RChoKY1cT2hj for <dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com>;
Mon, 30 Mar 2020 14:23:14 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com
[IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461])
(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
(No client certificate requested)
by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB9CB3A082A
for <dmarc@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 14:23:14 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 35678 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2020 21:23:12 -0000
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com;
h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding;
s=8b59.5e826340.k2003; bh=E6iRHIPEkIdvfznzRueWxLH3CnkqhWrkAW22NYi7lwg=;
b=WKMI/EYjc5/vsYpHcQ/3XDWa+52IRddy7HUd7U3jcSWRitvSbLja1c6UcJ2kW9d4FJcbt6xl9l0FrmzQrC+o9O5DyzXHWIvgmOxeTj5yISFshJ3jhdVcZudcSFfV4ts8P/DvVZXettpamtB3lVHn71x/3nTviP8V9bOFHLSLUWKBjhL1aZW44OWLBUkIdS1Iu1Uv0zyOqq/cAtcF9wCHtgXf7qMF2kNC6JnPrB+ZQErvRmjoAIQZzCa1Z106AiAQ
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com;
h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding;
s=8b59.5e826340.k2003; bh=E6iRHIPEkIdvfznzRueWxLH3CnkqhWrkAW22NYi7lwg=;
b=CNCiAm177l5ZgVgPUR0xt8yerXfSPL2LvHrAp9PiBq3mVREODHADCyBv8IA0dbkbwudsh+I2bhXfMEq+dv60nYEP8U+bjM8f0vWD12Oc64Zl+ezEvnek0fOTkq7u/ciiLohvV0q5mJiMj4wb5cWwFiBtKg4YDzl3tCvG7fqvEhvm8dQ3TbtflUcBfEOUTz9aIcHz3kffp3S4zZyOq0nBbRoCzHMtntKJ6CpaWfY9AZCKx/1Itp/qwE4wr6kDKMS3
Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170])
by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170])
with ESMTP via TCP6; 30 Mar 2020 21:23:12 -0000
Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501)
id 341EB16CFEA5; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 17:23:11 -0400 (EDT)
Date: 30 Mar 2020 17:23:11 -0400
Message-Id: <20200330212312.341EB16CFEA5@ary.qy>
From: "John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com>
To: dmarc@ietf.org
Cc: blong@google.com
In-Reply-To: <CABa8R6tTPAtEyPRSGbWKafZVZ4u8v8sN1VpTpMLQCia2_+5zRg@mail.gmail.com>
Organization: Taughannock Networks
X-Headerized: yes
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/Ev008HpVrR007N_lhAf14ukbavw>
Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601
X-BeenThere: dmarc@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting,
and Compliance \(DMARC\)" <dmarc.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dmarc>,
<mailto:dmarc-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dmarc/>
List-Post: <mailto:dmarc@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dmarc-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc>,
<mailto:dmarc-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 21:23:16 -0000
In article <CABa8R6tTPAtEyPRSGbWKafZVZ4u8v8sN1VpTpMLQCia2_+5zRg@mail.gmail.com> you write: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >Hmm, we didn't include this in RFC 8616 either, I could imagine that it >should be punycoded also, though it really depends on whether in 6532 or >5322. This is another mistake in the ABNF in 8601. The point of 6532 is that with the exception of Message-IDs, any header fields that used to be limited to ASCII can now contain UTF-8 printable characters. If you're putting an A-R header on an EAI message, it has to allow UTF-8 since lots of the fields in an A-R header can contain mailboxes and other UTF-8 strings. I realize that the authserv-id is usually a domain name, in which case it would be reasonable to represent it as A-labels, but it doesn't have to be. The only, and I mean ONLY, strings that are "punycoded" are the characters in IDN labels that follow xn--. To pick a common point of confusion, you absolutely cannot "punycode" a mailbox name. R's, John >On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 3:39 AM Damian Lukowski <rfc@arcsin.de> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> RFC8601 section 2.2 defines >> >> > authserv-id = value >> > ; see below for a description of this element >> > [...] >> > The "value" is as defined in Section 5.1 of [MIME], with >> > "quoted-string" updated as specified in [RFC6532]. >> [MIME] (RFC2045) section 5.1 >> >> > value := token / quoted-string >> > token := 1*<any (US-ASCII) CHAR except SPACE, CTLs, >> > or tspecials> >> >> The token is not said to be updated by [RFC6532] as is quoted-string, so >> by my interpretation non-ASCII cannot be used without quotes. >> >> If so, then current implementations of OpenDKIM and OpenDMARC are wrong >> or imcomplete, as they do not check for Non-ASCII AuthservID and produce >> headers like >> >> > Authentication-Results: öde; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral >> Is my understanding correct?
- [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Damian Lukowski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Brandon Long
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Damian Lukowski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Brandon Long
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Damian Lukowski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Kurt Andersen (b)
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Seth Blank
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Damian Lukowski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Damian Lukowski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Kurt Andersen (b)
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Damian Lukowski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Damian Lukowski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Damian Lukowski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Damian Lukowski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Damian Lukowski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Damian Lukowski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Brandon Long
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601 Brandon Long