Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-08
Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> Tue, 14 April 2020 09:55 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-08
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On Fri 10/Apr/2020 15:38:40 +0200 Todd Herr wrote: > On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 7:09 PM John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: >> In article <CABuGu1rekWo3mRkK_OpRksYNrSmPaFHD6k1_Ka7a_Sx7aMhBQ@mail.gmail.com> you write: >>> 1. ".co.uk" is not a TLD. TLDs are single label domains - there are >>> ccTLDs and gTLDs. >> >> Right. >> > > I don't disagree, but what I was going for here was some level of > consistency with section 3.2 of RFC 7489, which reads in part: > > 1. Acquire a "public suffix" list, i.e., a list of DNS domain names > reserved for registrations. Some country Top-Level Domains > (TLDs) make specific registration requirements, e.g., the United > Kingdom places company registrations under ".co.uk"; That text says TLD .uk made decision so and so. It doesn't imply that .co.uk is somehow to be considered a TLD. That wikipedia page is questionable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Second-level_domain > The point of the paragraph in question wasn't to define TLDs (or PSDs) but > rather to better define "domain names reserved for registration". Right. >>> 2. The invocation of the PSL compounds the issue that was raised by >>> Dave Crocker. How DMARC (RFC 7489) determines the organizational domain >>> is orthogonal to this proposal which simply calls for a conditional >>> additional check at the "org - 1" level. I recommend striking the >>> penultimate paragraph in the proposal.>> >> I'd suggest weasel wording it to say that the domain above an org >> domain is often known as a public suffix domain, which typically >> delegates the org domains below it to a unrelated parties. This spec >> allows public suffix domains to publish policies to supplant those of >> their child org domains ... +1 >> I agree we should stay as far from mentioning the PSL and its specific >> implementation as possible. Who knows, someday people might get >> around to trying my dbound in DNS implementation instead. Nevertheless, the concept of *Public Suffix* is independent of its only known implementation (and of some acceptations of the term "public"). It is the concept that 7489bis is going to craft. I propose to stick to the term Public Suffix, whatever its future definition is going to be. jm2c Ale --
- [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft-iet… Dale Worley via Datatracker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… Todd Herr
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… Kurt Andersen (b)
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… Todd Herr
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… Kurt Andersen (b)
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… Kurt Andersen (b)
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… worley
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… Seth Blank
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Genart last call review of draft… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Last-Call] Genart last call rev… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Last-Call] Genart last call rev… John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Last-Call] Genart last call rev… Kurt Andersen (b)
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… worley
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… worley
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Kurt Andersen (b)
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Kurt Andersen (b)
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Kurt Andersen (b)
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart las… worley