Re: [dmarc-ietf] Rethinking DMARC for PSDs

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Tue, 09 April 2019 02:27 UTC

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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2019 19:26:56 -0700
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Rethinking DMARC for PSDs
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<chair hat on>

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 5:27 PM Douglas E. Foster <
fosterd@bayviewphysicians.com> wrote:

> Scott, you misunderstand what this type of standard would look like.   It
> would defines Use Cases that the device should address, with some
> acknowledgement to the tradeoffs between perceived risk and perceived
> difficulty of implementation.
>

If what you're looking to do is drum up interest for working on this and,
if there's critical mass to do the work, getting something published, I
suggest any of the following:

ietf-822@ietf.org (message format discussions)
ietf-smtp@ietf.org (SMTP discussions)
art@ietf.org (ART area general discussions)
dispatch@ietf.org (once you have an actual proposal for work that needs a
home)

...possibly others, but those spring immediately to mind.  However, I
believe Scott is correct that this work is not currently within our
charter, and thus it's off-topic for this list.  I don't believe there's
any working group currently chartered to produce something like what's
being proposed here; EXTRA probably comes closest, and I think it's
off-topic there too.

Some years ago Dave Crocker and I assembled RFC 6647 about greylisting,
which was an applicability statement over email in general that talked
about how to implement greylisting.  You could follow that model if you
like, which merits standards track publication, though that means you'll
need to convince an AD to sponsor it or form a working group to develop it.

If my co-chair concurs, then it's appropriate that this conversation be
moved elsewhere.

-MSK