Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ticket #1 - SPF alignment

Alessandro Vesely <> Mon, 01 February 2021 16:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ticket #1 - SPF alignment
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On Mon 01/Feb/2021 15:26:37 +0100 Douglas Foster wrote:
> If Helo aligns with From, it says that the mail server has permission to send 
> on behalf of the From domain, but it does not justify using a different domain 
> in the SMTP address.   If the SMTP address is null, this is not a problem.   If 
> it is not null and is different from the HELO domain, we have permitted domain 
> abuse.

Who said a different MAIL FROM is abusive?  What if I have an account at gmail 
and, for convenience, prefer to collect bounces at that mailbox?  Would I need 
a special permission to do so?

What if helo is verified, bounce address is null, but there is a DKIM-Signature 
which is not aligned.  Is that domain abuse too?