Re: [dmarc-ietf] non-mailing list use case for differing header domains

Jesse Thompson <jesse.thompson@wisc.edu> Thu, 30 July 2020 20:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] non-mailing list use case for differing header domains
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On 7/30/20 2:47 PM, superuser@gmail.com wrote:
>     Email domains that have more than a few users don't want to authorize every potential 3rd party (converges quickly to all of them, for large/complex organizations) to sign as every user/address in the domain.  Even if SPF didn't have the 10 DNS lookup limitation, I would not choose put every 3rd party into our domains' SPF records.  I'd essentially be authorizing most of the [legitimate] internet to use the domains.
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> Yes, it has this scaling problem.  Had it been shown to be effective at dealing with the indirect mail flows issues that DMARC forced to be front-and-center a few years later, I imagine we could've revised ATPS to be more scalable.

I almost suggested that an address-level authorization mechanism would be useful, but that seems un-scalable for manageability reasons.

Jesse