Re: [dmarc-ietf] IETF 109 possible agenda/session discussion

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Tue, 17 November 2020 23:19 UTC

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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 15:19:13 -0800
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] IETF 109 possible agenda/session discussion
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To be clear, I encouraged the chairs to hold the meeting as scheduled.  My
reasons:

a) It is likely some people registered for IETF 109 specifically to attend
this and maybe one or two other email-related meetings, possibly at their
own expense.  Canceling this late in the game does them a disservice.

b) Canceling simply on the basis that it's late at night for some people
doesn't seem compelling in the IETF context.

c) As Jim suggested, high-bandwidth discussion will be useful, even if the
list of attendees is relatively small, as any consensus they develop needs
to be verified with the list anyway.

d) My own reading is that more people would likely attend than those who
expressed interest in canceling.

-MSK, your ART AD

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 3:09 PM Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes, I apologize for not getting back to the WG as promised.  The meeting
> will proceed as scheduled.
>
> -MSK, ART AD
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:10 PM Dotzero <dotzero@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Considering that some of us have to be up in the wee hours to
>> participate, it would be nice to know whether it is happening or cancelled.
>> Just saying. If the agenda is that light weight I may skip it even if held.
>>
>> Michael Hammer.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 2:35 PM Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/16/2020 10:46 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>>> > I'm discussing this with the chairs and they or I will get back to you
>>> > shortly.
>>>
>>>
>>> Forgive me, but this is all a bit nuts.
>>>
>>> Very few days before the scheduled session, we get a query about
>>> canceling it, though the query also included a fresh, 'lightweight'
>>> agenda.
>>>
>>> A couple of responses are posted, stating a preference for cancellation,
>>> with no immediate responses choosing having the meeting (though today,
>>> some have).
>>>
>>> We are now less than 12 hours from the scheduled time and still have not
>>> received a definitive decision by the chairs.
>>>
>>> d/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Crocker
>>> Brandenburg InternetWorking
>>> bbiw.net
>>>
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>>