Re: [dmarc-ietf] third party authorization, not, was non-mailing list

Jim Fenton <fenton@bluepopcorn.net> Wed, 26 August 2020 21:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] third party authorization, not, was non-mailing list
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On 8/26/20 10:54 AM, Dotzero wrote:
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>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:32 PM Doug Foster
> <fosterd=40bayviewphysicians.com@dmarc.ietf.org
> <mailto:40bayviewphysicians.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
>
>     Are the weak signatures vulnerable to a replay attack?    I
>     thought that one of the reasons that DKIM signatures included the
>     whole body was to prevent the signature from being reused.
>
>      
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>     DF
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> Not particularly vulnerable. The requirement is that you have the
> "weak signature" plus the intermediary full DKIM signature. This let's
> the validator/receiver know that the originating domain knew that the
> intermediary might break the originating domains DKIM signature but
> the validator/receiver would have the DKIM signature of the
> intermediary. The "weak signature" is only validated against that
> specific message and headers it signed and that specific intermediary.
> It's not a generic/general signature.


It sounds like the weak signature is just a regular DKIM signature plus
the designation of the intermediary, and the "weak" part is that you
don't check the body hash against the body. Have I got that right?

-Jim