Re: [dmarc-ietf] tree walk and Org and PSD, Second WGLC for draft-ietf-dmarc-psd

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] tree walk and Org and PSD, Second WGLC for draft-ietf-dmarc-psd
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I was sort of curious yesterday and checked as well.  Most were four or less.  I had a number that were five or six.  A couple dozen were at eight.  I had one spam message that had 13 parts.  It included both "_mta-sts" and "mta-sts" in there, as well as "mail" nine times.  The last two parts were the org domain.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: dmarc <dmarc-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of John Levine
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:06 PM
> To: dmarc@ietf.org
> Cc: eric.b.chudow.civ@mail.mil
> Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] tree walk and Org and PSD, Second WGLC for draft-
> ietf-dmarc-psd
>
> In article
> <553D43C8D961C14BB27C614AC48FC0312811FC37@UMECHPA7D.easf.csd.dis
> a.mil> you write:
> >-=-=-=-=-=-
> >
> >Even for .mil, the vast majority of email domains are fairly short with
> >four or fewer labels. Most of the other ones tend to be individual servers that
> send automatic performance emails, and I think should be considered more of
> an edge case and less of our concern.
>
> I scraped my logs for the past few months and that's what I found.
> Nearly everything was four labels or less. Spot checking the few five-label
> names, I found that most of the mail was all from MAILER-DAEMON@<long-
> mailhost-name> and it appeared to be spam blowback.  There was a trickle of
> what looked like real mail from stumail.zcs.k12.in.us and feedback.retail.voice-
> your-views.hsbc.com,
>
> I found nothing at all with six labels or longer.
>
> So if we made the tree walk limit six or seven I think we'd be unlikely to lose any
> mail that anyone would miss.
>
> R's,
> John
>
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