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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601

"Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com> Tue, 31 March 2020 19:12 UTC

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From: "Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 12:11:40 -0700
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To: Damian Lukowski <rfc@arcsin.de>
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:56 AM Damian Lukowski <rfc@arcsin.de> wrote:

> > I don't see any reason to exclude them.  We could do this:
> >
> >       autbserv-id     = sub-domain *("." sub-domain)
> >
> > Where sub-domain is imported from 5321 for ASCII mail and 6531 for EAI
> mail.
>
> Does this mean that a parser would need to know if the message has been
> sent with SMTPUTF8 in order to pass or refute U-labels?
>

You don't need SMTPUTF8 to handle IDNs.

--Kurt

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