Re: [dmarc-ietf] New Version Notification for draft-kucherawy-dmarc-dmarcbis-01.txt

Tim Wicinski <> Mon, 06 April 2020 17:22 UTC

Return-Path: <>
Received: from localhost (localhost []) by (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E9F3A0B14 for <>; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 10:22:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.097
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key)
Received: from ([]) by localhost ( []) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LyrEf4PmfmJp for <>; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 10:22:09 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from ( [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::332]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88EBB3A0B0C for <>; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 10:22:09 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by with SMTP id l23so153147otf.3 for <>; Mon, 06 Apr 2020 10:22:09 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=RRMxtb1si+gqF4f0BolhUhB6X4hTWgNY9OyKiQ3O7j4=; b=ubPqa9Sulz+rwb8AN43I4QC2oe4LGwxrzWyURwzGGV8rkZXNCcv12pl0bwPRVPpNkU 46EyfOZlY+Sv3jGhw7NldDdDaL8cDqCBGw3aDyIH7cJzEI5s1vZZYggwwoZk5AmemN34 Nl4ufaqXTZdnrJiJBZagikHUqbbHawEylQUzP41OshPghls0Ypgt8CbWDRGz39ECdY9J tbM8JTCYbk490BfMn9+wz7VHiH5Zr5NieGKthjShtRQZ+f8R7KqG77DYuseWNletoyLd aopvo0r0t6dpRED5xS3o8eExpINJQmUXI//XkUMZQzsv+YXrS64N3gJ7E0NNR7Q3ed7G DJig==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=RRMxtb1si+gqF4f0BolhUhB6X4hTWgNY9OyKiQ3O7j4=; b=XoSPoFH+IoFRsjpY1ZwJ3HIuxXGqmf1Q+pPjrXnyCaaL2EQv2tt/xI/PaC8XYoSCpx XYjDwUHC7box5Ti5T/uDO5NbLPQQrvNJHBdR++nxa5UIl2SymteCLhOYOc+Nq8Ss3d30 WItcm5eEZ3GOKoDr9T55utmaE3kscHGEahmGZW31oGJYpoaAKPZftpfOgCV+/SWruCx/ m5sA/rh/bW4Bi5uGB/H/5ri1s1aP9Wi3drUg538XWFnESP2XYlSNP3CPtCiFQPW3q6uG 9NzuOLJ+BbxXlh9zKwHLz0hJuxAL5NvfcHw38M7JPVUvmV46veMZHOE6W6LaJoE5we4V BHsA==
X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PubAdtL7q+xHcoc+l/ZS0m7lrNK7HF0i3s/3J53S1beZCgzSY8Zd 7+Q7QdP88h/joWDgiZ5PeC9CWKIhDxkymDhA0tD1trvD
X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJ5KySzOMmU9KQ/c5+BV8TF8wXwxeHOHVEqBQz5mGXmsQQmt8ZeqzdBT5rvfhHTJ1LMOJFzaWnL8XdqN31eq8o=
X-Received: by 2002:a9d:1988:: with SMTP id k8mr129540otk.4.1586193728532; Mon, 06 Apr 2020 10:22:08 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <>
In-Reply-To: <>
From: Tim Wicinski <>
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 13:21:56 -0400
Message-ID: <>
Cc: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <>, Elizabeth Zwicky <>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bbf4dc05a2a2810e"
Archived-At: <>
Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] New Version Notification for draft-kucherawy-dmarc-dmarcbis-01.txt
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Compliance \(DMARC\)" <>
List-Unsubscribe: <>, <>
List-Archive: <>
List-Post: <>
List-Help: <>
List-Subscribe: <>, <>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2020 17:22:12 -0000

Updates to draft-kucherawy-dmarc-dmarcbis

    updated IANA Considerations to reflect new DNS Underscore Registry

    Moved xml schema to own versioned document

    Fixed internal cross reference issue

    Edits to escape _ properly

    Fixed references to RFC6651

    Updated Obsolete References

I also pulled the ABNF out into its own file, and I've been looking at a
few of the tickets

around updating the ABNF, and how we could validate it.   This led to a
long discussion with

Mr. Levine about a better way to track external references to ABNF objects.

There are several tickets related to ABNF and several related to the XML,
and that's before

we go through the document itself.

the XML schema has several issues in the issue tracker, and it seemed to
make sense to pull it out so it can also be referenced by others.  Very
useful discussions with Mr.  Vesely and Mr. Levine on versioning the XML
schema and some of the open issues

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 1:19 PM <> wrote:

> A new version of I-D, draft-kucherawy-dmarc-dmarcbis-01.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Tim Wicinski and posted to the
> IETF repository.
> Name:           draft-kucherawy-dmarc-dmarcbis
> Revision:       01
> Title:          Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and
> Conformance (DMARC)
> Document date:  2020-04-06
> Group:          Individual Submission
> Pages:          73
> URL:
> Status:
> Htmlized:
> Htmlized:
> Diff:
> Abstract:
>    Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Conformance
>    (DMARC) is a scalable mechanism by which a mail-originating
>    organization can express domain-level policies and preferences for
>    message validation, disposition, and reporting, that a mail-receiving
>    organization can use to improve mail handling.
>    Originators of Internet Mail need to be able to associate reliable
>    and authenticated domain identifiers with messages, communicate
>    policies about messages that use those identifiers, and report about
>    mail using those identifiers.  These abilities have several benefits:
>    Receivers can provide feedback to Domain Owners about the use of
>    their domains; this feedback can provide valuable insight about the
>    management of internal operations and the presence of external domain
>    name abuse.
>    DMARC does not produce or encourage elevated delivery privilege of
>    authenticated email.  DMARC is a mechanism for policy distribution
>    that enables increasingly strict handling of messages that fail
>    authentication checks, ranging from no action, through altered
>    delivery, up to message rejection.
>    This document obsoletes RFC 7489.
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at
> The IETF Secretariat