Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC questions

[Michael Thomas <[e-mail]>]

if you're trying to make a point about the bloat, you might actually get 
your facts straight. ARC adds an additional DKIM signature and a Seal. i 
have no idea what a X-Google-DKIM-Signature is and is not relevant.

Mike

On 12/2/20 6:55 PM, John R. Levine wrote:
>> PS: you're adding X-Google-DKIM-Signature which nobody knows what its 
>> utility is to your bloat total for dramatic effect.
>
> Um, it was there when your message arrived here.  Complain to your 
> mail provider.
>
>> On 12/2/20 6:33 PM, John R Levine wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2020, Michael Thomas wrote:
>>>>> But why bother?  The IANA header field registry currently has 419 
>>>>> entries. Why is it a crisis if it increases to 422 rather than 420?
>>>>
>>>> It does a lot more than that:
>>>
>>> We've been through this all before and none of these are 
>>> persuasive.  For
>>> example:
>>>
>>>> 3) It adds a lot more bloat to the headers
>>>
>>> The message you just sent arrived with 4600 bytes of header (see 
>>> below) and under 2K of text.  Copies that went through the dmarc 
>>> mailing list probably had at least another 1K of header.
>>>
>>> If header bloat were ever an issue, it hasn't been for decades.
>>>
>>> R's,
>>> John
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>>> Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC questions
>>> To: John R Levine <[e-mail]>, Brandon Long <[e-mail]>
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