Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-08

"Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com> Thu, 16 April 2020 19:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-08
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On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:29 AM John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

> In article <4666D39F-85F5-4AD2-A754-11FED0A5C169@kitterman.com> you write:
> >Perhaps I'm too pessimistic, but I don't think it's possible to actually
> make this clear to anyone that isn't familiar
> >with RFC 7489 without essentially turning this into a proto 7489bis.
>
> I agree.  Hence my suggestion last week to tear out all of the TLD
> stuff or move it into an appendix and just say this is the name above
> the Organizational domain which you can find into RFC 7489.
>
> The reality is that any of the 8000 domains in the PSL could publish a
> PSD record, and I would not want to try to explain to anyone in the
> IESG why most of them are there.  So let's stay as far away from that
> as possible.  Policy Super Domain, remember?


 After an initial "that's too cutesy" reaction, I'm becoming more convinced
that John's suggestion ("policy super domain") might indeed be the right
sort of solution - along with clearly citing 7489 in the intro and abstract
("If you don't know what DMARC is, go read RFC 7489 before coming back
here." or similar).

--Kurt