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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Request to accept a new I-D into the WG work items

Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 08 November 2018 18:37 UTC

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From: Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2018 13:37:37 -0500
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To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Request to accept a new I-D into the WG work items
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Stated Very elegantly Murray.

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 1:36 PM Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 1:20 PM Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 3:53 PM Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> > and maybe it can solve the "PSL problem" if we can constrain the
>>> problem
>>> > space to just the DMARC issues instead of recreating the
>>> > DBOUND-solve-for-all morass.
>>>
>>> This problem is simpler than DBOUND.  Looking up text policies is common
>>> to a
>>> handful of protocols.  A careful wording might make some statements
>>> reusable in
>>> general, even if the focus is kept on DMARC.
>>>
>>
>> Sure, the DMARC case is half of what DBOUND tried to tackle.  If DBOUND
>> had focused just on the DMARC use case, it would've succeeded.
>>
>> If possible, we should be careful to create a solution that's extensible
>> to other use cases, not exclusive of them.  Reviewing what DBOUND tried to
>> do might be very instructive here.
>>
>> -MSK
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