Re: [dmarc-ietf] Announcement - DMARC bis Design Team

[Seth Blank <[e-mail]>]

All-

As we stated in this thread, we'll be holding an interim once the design
team comes back with updated documents, and will NOT be holding a session
at IETF 110.

As of right now, however, it looks like there is still a DMARC session on
the agenda. This is a mistake, and we've poked the secretariat to cancel
it. Apologies for any confusion.

Seth, for the Chairs

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 2:05 PM tjw ietf <[e-mail]> wrote:

> We’re working on canceling the meeting.
>
> Tim
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 22, 2021, at 16:59, Dotzero <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > So I'm assuming there won't be anything to talk about at the next IETF
> meeting.
> >
> > Michael Hammer
> >
> >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 12:59 PM Seth Blank <seth=
> [e-mail]> wrote:
> >> On 27 October 2020, in post
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/qtCDyGbeDHz96G8FaCxJvhJKrvo/
> the chairs announced a split of RFC7489 into three documents, to be scoped
> as follows:
> >>
> >> The DMARC Base Spec (editors - Emil Gustafsson, Todd Herr, and John
> Levine)
> >> Aggregate Reporting (editor - Alex Brotman)
> >> Forensic Reporting (editors - Steve Jones and Alessandro Vesely)
> >>
> >> The chairs are of the opinion that discussion of topics related to the
> DMARC bis documents on the mailing list has reached a point where it would
> be unreasonable to expect any timely progress toward completion of the
> refinement of the DMARC bis at this point.
> >>
> >> Our charter (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dmarc/about/) is clear on
> what this working group’s priority should be when reviewing and improving
> the DMARC specification: “Issues based on operational experience and/or
> data aggregated from multiple sources will be given priority.”
> >>
> >> We are spending too much time on items that are at best incidental to
> DMARC, and rarely are informed by operational practice or data from
> multiple sources. Efforts by the chairs to weigh in and declare discussions
> unproductive work for that particular thread, but the involved parties just
> move on to another thread, and consensus remains well over the horizon.
> >>
> >> We have therefore decided that the best approach to achieve progress
> for the DMARC bis documents is to form a design team, per RFC 2418, Section
> 6.5. The team will be composed of the editors, focused on their designated
> documents, as defined above. The team will be charged with working through
> all existing tickets and producing an updated version of each DMARC bis
> document to present to the working group, at which point discussion would
> resume on-list with respect to the updated documents.
> >>
> >> The design team will operate as follows:
> >>
> >> A moratorium is hereby imposed on creating tickets for this working
> group, effective at 5pm PT, Friday, February 26th.
> >> The design team will have until 5pm PT, Friday, April 23rd, to work
> through all applicable tickets, and come to agreement on each to either
> modify DMARC bis documents (and make such modification) or reject the
> ticket, with the reason for rejection added to the ticket's comments. No
> tickets will be closed during this process, everything will be transparent
> for working group review after the design period.
> >> Changes made to the DMARC bis documents will be tracked in the
> following manner:
> >> By comments added to the ticket driving the change
> >> By comments in the markdown (.md) and/or XML version of the documents
> >> Through an Appendix section added temporarily to the documents, so that
> changes can be easily summarized for the next step in the process.
> >> All changes throughout the process will be publicly visible within
> GitHub (https://github.com/ietf-wg-dmarc).
> >> At the end of the time period, in roughly sixty days (or earlier if
> their work is finished before then), the design team will deliver updated
> versions of the DMARC bis documents to the working group, and the working
> group will have a chance to review that version and make
> comments/recommending edits, etc., using
> https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dmarc/report/1 to create tickets as needed.
> Initial discussion will be limited to what’s in the documents



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