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From: Ken O'Driscoll <ken@wemonitoremail.com>
To: IETF DMARC WG <dmarc@ietf.org>
CC: Dave Crocker <dcrocker@gmail.com>, Douglas Foster <dougfoster.emailstandards@gmail.com>
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On Monday 22 February 2021 16:14, Dave Crocker wrote:
> Strictly speaking co.uk is not ICAN-authorized.  It's authorized by
> mechanisms internal to the UK.
> 

None of the ccTLDs registry operators would call or consider themselves "ICANN-authorized". The original authorisation to use the namespace is very separate to ICANN having any general authority over them. Further, it’s likely to be confused with the more common term "ICANN-accredited", which refers to a sub-set of domain registrars, not registries.

I think a better and more inclusive term would be "Internet Domain Registry".

Ken.

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