Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC vs reject

"Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com> Mon, 07 December 2020 22:27 UTC

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From: "Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 14:27:11 -0800
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC vs reject
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On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 10:46 AM Douglas Foster <
dougfoster.emailstandards@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I ask the chairs to formally endorse development of an alternative to ARC
> as an additional approach to the mailing list problem...
>

So you are asking the WG to go back to our second milestone and put the
current work on milestone 3 on hold?

--Kurt