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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Abolishing DMARC policy quarantine

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Wed, 24 July 2019 20:07 UTC

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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:07:27 -0400
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To: Дилян Палаузов <dilyan.palauzov@aegee.org>
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Abolishing DMARC policy quarantine
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OK, I see what you're getting at.

It's interesting that the industry has decided to interpret "p=reject;
pct=0" the way we intended "p=quarantine; pct=100".

As for your proposal:

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 12:52 PM Дилян Палаузов <dilyan.palauzov@aegee.org>
wrote:

> And then, for p=none or any equivalent form of it, there is no need or
> established practice for mungling, while for
> p=reject; pct=0, or any equivalent form of it, there is mungling.
>
> This is the current specification.  I proposed on this regard in fact two
> things:
> - specifying that p=quarantine; pct=0 (email from 10th May to dmarc@ietf)
> the MLM does mungling
> - abolishing policy quarantine
>
> That is: p=reject; pct=0 gets almost the same as p=none, except that there
> is recommendatiton for MLM to mungle From:.
>

I'm a little worried about this, but maybe it's just The Way Of Things.  We
had intended the publication of a DMARC policy to be a message from the
ADMD owning a domain name to any ADMD receiving mail from it about how to
handle unauthenticated or unaligned messages.  It's actually morphed on its
own into also being a message to any MLM that might be in the way to take
particular rewriting actions.  I wonder if the standards track version of
DMARC should explicitly take this into account.

-MSK

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