Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-10.txt

[Douglas Foster <[e-mail]>]

So what is the best nomenclature for referring to the "ICANN-authorized
registries"?   Dave's phrase or something else?

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021, 10:26 AM Dave Crocker <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> >>> Actually that's a community that I would expect to know exactly what
> all those terms mean and
> >>> how they are all related.
>
> yes. But it's worse than that.  The current language is not
> automatically clear even for folk with good knowledge about DNS
> administration.
>
> As is being noted, I too think a great deal of the problem is
> over-reliance on the word register.
>
> It is being used as if it explains a basic difference in administrative
> roles.  It doesn't.  Not even close.
>
>
> >> To work with the example you gave here, I agree that "facebook.com" is
> registered (under "com"), but
> >> disagree that "www.facebook.com" is registered at all;
> > Right, of course it's not.
>
> I disagree.  Strongly.  The fact that one registration is internal and
> another is through a third-party, semi-regulated service does not make a
> difference, for the use of that word.
>
> I work with an organization that has an IT department that is just as
> formal typical ICANN-authorized registries.  To get a sub-domain is a
> Very Big Deal.  Don't think for a moment that it is fundamentally
> different than interacting with the TLD registeries.
>
>
> > I didn't say that it is: I said that
> > people who don't fully understand this stuff *think* it is, and that's
> > the part that the text isn't making clear.
> >
> >> To my mind, "register" involves a specific transaction, sometimes
> involving money, with whoever gates
> >> access to make those delegations.
>
> How much do you pay to register to vote?
>
> However the rest of the above statement is correct.  A transaction to
> record gain access to a resource or to reserve access to it.
>
> Registration is a process of signing up.  That's all.  And it says
> nothing about the role or relationship of the entity the registration is
> with.
>
>
>
> d/
>
>
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