Re: [DMM] regarding the re-chartering..

["MONGAZON-CAZAVET, BRUNO (BRUNO)" <[e-mail]>]

On 05/09/2014 19:10, Charlie Perkins wrote:
>
> Hello folks,
>
> I have made various presentations at IETF, some from many years
> ago, proposing that Mobile IP enable use of GTP as a tunneling
> option.  I still think that would be a good idea.  Should I re-re-revive
> a draft stating this in more detail?

I would be interested to look at this draft.
Thanks.
Bruno

>
>
> Regards,
> Charlie P.
>
>
> On 9/5/2014 1:48 AM, Alper Yegin wrote:
>> Alex,
>>
>> DMM is not meant to be only about a bunch of MIP-based solutions.
>> There are various components in DMM solution space that'd also work 
>> with GTP-based architectures.
>> For example, identifying the mobility needs of flows.
>> Or, conveying the mobility characteristic of a prefix to the UE.
>>
>> Alper
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2014, at 1:14 PM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
>>
>>> Le 03/09/2014 20:53, Brian Haberman a écrit :
>>>> Behcet,
>>>>
>>>> On 9/3/14 2:33 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
>>>>> You don't seem to understand my points.
>>>> That is quite possible.  Your comment on the list was "I am against 
>>>> any
>>>> deployment work before we decide on a solution..."
>>>>
>>>> I read that as an objection to having the deployment models work 
>>>> item on
>>>> the agenda.  Please do tell me what I am missing.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Brian
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am following the discussion and me too I do not quite understand 
>>> what is the complain.
>>>
>>> I am happy to learn that a if a WG is to be formed then it would be 
>>> around a solution rather than just requirements or architecture.
>>>
>>> That said, I would like to express a worry along similar lines.
>>>
>>> In DMM, precedents and the keen NETEXT, there seems to be a 
>>> hard-rooted disconnect between the product developped - (P)Mobile IP 
>>> - and the deployments.  We know for a fact that 3GPP deployments 
>>> (2G/3G/4G) do not use (P)Mobile IP.  We also know that 3GPP specs do 
>>> mention Mobile IP. To such a point that I wonder whether 3GPP has 
>>> not the same disconnect as here.
>>>
>>> On another hand, we do have indications of where (P)Mobile IP is 
>>> used - the trials, the projects, the kernel code, and not least the 
>>> slideware attracting real customers.
>>>
>>> The worry: develop DMM protocol while continuing the disconnect.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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