Re: [DMM] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmm-5g-uplane-analysis-04.txt

Takuya Miyasaka <ta-miyasaka@kddi-research.jp> Wed, 18 November 2020 13:39 UTC

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Hi all,

Due to a presentation order change and time shortage, we were not able 
to present the 5g-uplane-analysis draft yesterday. The presentation 
materials are uploaded below, so if you are interested in them, please 
check them out.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/109/materials/slides-109-dmm-user-plane-protocol-and-architectural-analysis-on-3gpp-5g-system-01

Also, as you can see in the email from Shunsuke, we're looking for 
feedback on the future direction of this draft, so please let us know if 
you have any ideas.

Regards,
Takuya

On 2020/11/17 9:41, Shunsuke Homma wrote:
> Hi Hannu,
>
> Thank you for informing the status of 3GPP.
>
> Unfortunately, we did not have enough time to restructure the whole of 
> document at this update. We’ll modify introduction, conclusion and any 
> other sections at next updating with referring the result of 3GPP.
>
> Meanwhile, we’d like to make this document be valuable for future IETF 
> work relevant to 3GPP, and need feedback and opinion how to forward 
> this work from WG.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Shunsuke behalf of authors
>
>
> 2020年11月16日(月) 4:33 Flinck, Hannu (Nokia - FI/Espoo) 
> <hannu.flinck@nokia-bell-labs.com 
> <mailto:hannu.flinck@nokia-bell-labs.com>>:
>
>     Hello authors of the draft-ietf-dmm-5g-uplane-analysis-04.txt draft,
>
>     As I have said earlier 3GPP CT4 as concluded the user plane study
>     that the draft is indirectly referring through the liaison
>     statements in the intro section.
>     The study listed a number of issues why Srv6 is not considered
>     suitable for the user plane. Please review 3GPP TR 29.892 and take
>     that into account in the analysis.
>
>     I also would like to note that the Rel 16 is completed and 3GPP is
>     working on Rel 17.
>
>     Therefore the sentences like " The study description mentions that
>     the study would be based on
>        Release 16 requirement while only Release 15 specifications has
>     been
>        available now.  However we believe that to provide adequate
>        information for 3GPP, we need to clearly understand what the
>     current
>        user plane protocol is in Release 15, and architectural
>     requirements
>        for the user plane." is very weird considering that you are
>     addressing completed Release.
>
>     I cannot understand why and what is the benefit of such.
>
>     Best regards
>     Hannu
>
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>     A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>     directories.
>     This draft is a work item of the Distributed Mobility Management
>     WG of the IETF.
>
>             Title           : User Plane Protocol and Architectural
>     Analysis on 3GPP 5G System
>             Authors         : Shunsuke Homma
>                               Takuya Miyasaka
>                               Satoru Matsushima
>                               Daniel Voyer
>             Filename        : draft-ietf-dmm-5g-uplane-analysis-04.txt
>             Pages           : 42
>             Date            : 2020-11-02
>
>     Abstract:
>        This document analyzes the mobile user plane protocol and the
>        architecture specified in 3GPP 5G documents.  The analysis work
>     is to
>        clarify those specifications, extract protocol and architectural
>        requirements and derive evaluation aspects for user plane protocols
>        on IETF side.  This work is corresponding to the User Plane
>     Protocol
>        Study work on 3GPP side.
>
>
>     The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-5g-uplane-analysis/
>     <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-5g-uplane-analysis/>
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>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dmm-5g-uplane-analysis-04
>     <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dmm-5g-uplane-analysis-04>
>
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