Re: [DMM] regarding the re-chartering..

Charlie Perkins <charles.perkins@earthlink.net> Fri, 05 September 2014 17:10 UTC

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Hello folks,

I have made various presentations at IETF, some from many years
ago, proposing that Mobile IP enable use of GTP as a tunneling
option.  I still think that would be a good idea.  Should I re-re-revive
a draft stating this in more detail?

Regards,
Charlie P.


On 9/5/2014 1:48 AM, Alper Yegin wrote:
> Alex,
>
> DMM is not meant to be only about a bunch of MIP-based solutions.
> There are various components in DMM solution space that'd also work with GTP-based architectures.
> For example, identifying the mobility needs of flows.
> Or, conveying the mobility characteristic of a prefix to the UE.
>
> Alper
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> On Sep 4, 2014, at 1:14 PM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
>
>> Le 03/09/2014 20:53, Brian Haberman a écrit :
>>> Behcet,
>>>
>>> On 9/3/14 2:33 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
>>>> You don't seem to understand my points.
>>> That is quite possible.  Your comment on the list was "I am against any
>>> deployment work before we decide on a solution..."
>>>
>>> I read that as an objection to having the deployment models work item on
>>> the agenda.  Please do tell me what I am missing.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Brian
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am following the discussion and me too I do not quite understand what is the complain.
>>
>> I am happy to learn that a if a WG is to be formed then it would be around a solution rather than just requirements or architecture.
>>
>> That said, I would like to express a worry along similar lines.
>>
>> In DMM, precedents and the keen NETEXT, there seems to be a hard-rooted disconnect between the product developped - (P)Mobile IP - and the deployments.  We know for a fact that 3GPP deployments (2G/3G/4G) do not use (P)Mobile IP.  We also know that 3GPP specs do mention Mobile IP. To such a point that I wonder whether 3GPP has not the same disconnect as here.
>>
>> On another hand, we do have indications of where (P)Mobile IP is used - the trials, the projects, the kernel code, and not least the slideware attracting real customers.
>>
>> The worry: develop DMM protocol while continuing the disconnect.
>>
>> Alex
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