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Re: [dns-dir] Draft requesting reservation of special-use domain names

Olaf Kolkman <olaf@NLnetLabs.nl> Wed, 20 November 2013 22:58 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Draft requesting reservation of special-use domain names
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On 20 nov. 2013, at 17:37, Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> wrote:

> 
> On 17 nov 2013, at 22:46, Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 9:23 AM 11/15/13, Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> wrote:
>> 
>>> More specifically, I think IETF must really fast make up their mind on what the status of Appendix G of RFC 6762 is.
>> 
>> Status in what way?  I don't understand what status needs to be decided or codified.
> 
> I want to know whether the fact a string is listed in Appendix G of RFC 6762 can be, from an IETF perspective, be delegated as TLDs in the root zone.
> 
> Note specifically that some of those strings are applied for strings in the ICANN new gTLD process.
> 

And given the political importance of this question it may be a good idea to appeal the decision ourselves and make sure we go all the way up to the appeals chain (with arguments on either side as advocati diaboli) just to make sure we did _everything_ on our side to come to the most solid decision.

Not because appeals are fun but because they serve a purpose for solidifying output and documenting that interpretation to the fullest.

Thinking out loud,

—Olaf

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