Re: [dns-dir] Review request
Martin Stiemerling <martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu> Fri, 12 April 2013 09:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Review request
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Thanks for the review and we are currently working through it! Martin On 03/29/2013 03:13 PM, Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: > I reviewed the document and this is a well written clear document with some deficiencies. > > The introduction is real good at explaining what the document is attempting. > > The procedure(s) proposed are based of the implicit assumption that provisioning of reverse DNS is > somehow related to service provision for another protocol, which may or may not be the case. > > Question #1: How is dual stack handled in queries? > in sequence or in parallel ? > if sequence which one first ? > > Question #2 What about hosts with multiple links? > > The procedures expect hope to get back PTR records and the name in the PTR record > is used for further lookups. (good) > The fundamental question is are all attempts to find PTR exhausted before going to next step? > > Question #3: what about the case when there are multiple PTR records in the answer? > > If the lookup fails the procedure hopes to find SOA record in the negative answer, > extracts from the SOA record the name of the "Master DNS server" MNAME, > and uses that name to do further lookups. > > Comment #1: Master DNS servers are not always reachable, as they are hidden masters or > traffic protected. Frequently there is no correlation between the zone name and the Mname > I did a randomly selected reverse lookup on 185.55.55.55 > 185.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN SOA pri.authdns.ripe.net. dns.ripe.net. ……. > > In this case it is obvious (to a human) the SOA is useless and the algorithm should terminate, > what the procedure as specified will do is to cause many queries to the RIR name servers for lots of names that have > no PTR records and no delegations. > > Question #4: Why MNAME but not the owner name of the SOA ? (explain or point to explanation) > > Question #5: What is the point of the explicit SOA query for reverse name and why do editors expect to get a different answer than in the PTR question ? > > Section #4: > there is no mention about the expected extra traffic to RIR (and or ISP) DNS server when the PTR lookup fails, > I would like to see some text on how to abort the algorithms early I.e. > SOA present --- useful SOA ---> do lookup > +-------- useless SOA ---> algorithm failed > > > This boat has probably sailed but I will ask it anyway: > Question #6 Why not place the NAPTR records in the reverse tree? > > Editing comment: It would be helpful if the text from section 3 bullet 1 about what address to look up was included in section 2 before the > diagrams of the algorithms (or at least pointer to address selection). > > Olafur > > > > On Mar 28, 2013, at 6:01 PM, Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> The ALTO WG is considering the adoption of a draft focused on the discovery of an ALTO server using DNS (but not SRV records). Martin (TSV AD) has requested an early DNS Directorate review. Could I get a volunteer (or two) to review the draft for DNS sanity? >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kist-alto-3pdisc/ >> >> Regards, >> Brian >> _______________________________________________ >> dns-dir mailing list >> dns-dir@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir > -- martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu NEC Laboratories Europe NEC Europe Limited Registered Office: Athene, Odyssey Business Park, West End Road, London, HA4 6QE, GB Registered in England 2832014
- [dns-dir] Review request Brian Haberman
- Re: [dns-dir] Review request Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dns-dir] Review request Martin Stiemerling
- Re: [dns-dir] Fwd: Re: Review request Sebastian Kiesel
- Re: [dns-dir] Fwd: Re: Review request Martin Stiemerling
- Re: [dns-dir] Review request Olafur Gudmundsson