Re: [dns-privacy] Root Server Operators Statement on DNS Encryption

Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net> Wed, 31 March 2021 21:51 UTC

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> On Mar 31, 2021, at 11:49 PM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
> The real issue IMO is not querying the root servers but
> the TLDs. There are still performance issues to consider
> of course but the business model and the value to the
> person somewhere behind the recursive are quite different.
> 
> I really wish we could stop all mixing up the roots with
> the TLDs in this discussion.

Yep, exactly.

                                -Bill