Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pauly-dprive-oblivious-doh
Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net> Fri, 19 March 2021 19:32 UTC
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From: Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net>
To: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pauly-dprive-oblivious-doh
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"Martin Thomson" <mt@lowentropy.net> writes: TL;DR: don't adopt > I would question the value of publishing the experimental > approximately-but-not-quite-O-HTTP version then. Unless we fail > majestically in chartering and executing there, we're not talking > about significant delays. It seems silly to me to write up a document that is decoupled from the parallel O-HTTP work when it would be better off depending on the results of that work. Otherwise we'll have potentially two different protocols that are subtly different enough to increase code complexity in stacks trying to offer support for both. I'm not sure where that intersection will exist (browsers?), but I doubt it's zero implementations. IMHO, ODoH is a useful goal and protocol but should be a small document describing the additions needed beyond the eventual O-HTTP. If the current proposal does get adopted, I'd argue for experimental being a much better track. I strongly doubt, without evidence, that this will be the final solution to this newly targeted problem. ------ (as proof that I'm not opposed to the technology proposed in general: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hardaker-dnse-split-key-dns/ from 2014) -- Wes Hardaker USC/ISI
- [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pauly-d… Brian Haberman
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WG Call for Adoption: dra… Eric Orth
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WG Call for Adoption: dra… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Martin Thomson
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Rob Sayre
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Martin Thomson
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Watson Ladd
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Petr Špaček
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Tomas Krizek
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Neil Cook
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Paul Wouters
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WG Call for Adoption: dra… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WG Call for Adoption: dra… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Jim Reid
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Tomas Krizek
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Eric Orth
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Jim Reid
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Eric Orth
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WG Call for Adoption: dra… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Neil Cook
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Christopher Wood
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… David Schinazi
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Rob Sayre
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Rob Sayre
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Vladimír Čunát
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Brian Haberman