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Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dprive-phase2-requirements-02.txt

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org> Wed, 04 November 2020 15:08 UTC

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On Nov 4, 2020, at 12:42 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 02:54:13PM -0800,
> internet-drafts@ietf.org <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote 
> a message of 43 lines which said:
> 
>>        Title           : DNS Privacy Requirements for Exchanges between Recursive Resolvers and Authoritative Servers
>>        Authors         : Jason Livingood
>>                          Alexander Mayrhofer
>>                          Benno Overeinder
>> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-dprive-phase2-requirements-02.txt
> 
>> 9.1 there are currently three ways to reduce that exposure:
> 
> ECS should be mentioned here, as a "fourth way" (or may be just a
> reference to RFC 8932).

+1 

> 
>> 9.2. Operators of authoritative services have to provide stable and
>> fast DNS services, and interact with a wide range of clients, not
>> all of them authoritative servers.
> 
> I don't understand the sentence. Except for NOTIFY/AXFR, the
> authoritative name servers do not interact with authoritative name
> servers, they talk mostly to resolvers (plus the CS students probing
> them with dig). 

That confused me as well.

--Paul Hoffman

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