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Re: [dns-privacy] Alexey Melnikov's No Objection on draft-ietf-dprive-bcp-op-08: (with COMMENT)

Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com> Fri, 06 March 2020 10:40 UTC

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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2020 11:39:58 +0100
From: Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com>
To: Ben Schwartz <bemasc=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Sara Dickinson <sara@sinodun.com>
Cc: Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>, Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, dprive-chairs@ietf.org, dns-privacy@ietf.org, draft-ietf-dprive-bcp-op@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] Alexey Melnikov's No Objection on draft-ietf-dprive-bcp-op-08: (with COMMENT)
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>     Il 05/03/2020 18:13 Ben Schwartz <bemasc=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> ha scritto:
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>     On Thu, Mar 5, 2020, 8:35 AM Sara Dickinson < sara@sinodun.com mailto:sara@sinodun.com > wrote:
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>         > >         How about:
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> >         “We do not know of a court precedent relating to the question of whether simply using a DNS resolution service constitutes consent from the user for the operator to process their query data"
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>     That sounds like a significant improvement to me.
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>     Note that "precedent" is a term used by primarily in "common law" jurisdictions like the UK and US, so it may not be meaningful to all readers:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precedent#Civil_law_systems
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The concept is well understood in civil law systems as well, just precedents are not (that) binding.
Ciao,

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