Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pauly-dprive-oblivious-doh

Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com> Thu, 18 March 2021 02:37 UTC

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From: Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com>
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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pauly-dprive-oblivious-doh
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As an author, I support adoption as experimental. To Paul’s email, I also am quite happy to have change control governed by the WG.

To the OHTTP discussion, I’m fine with having the direction be to use OHTTP for ODoH, but I personally believe that even in the best case, the timelines and deployment considerations make it more practical to have an experimental ODoH ship prior to a version that uses OHTTP.

Best,
Tommy

> On Mar 17, 2021, at 6:45 AM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> 
> I believe this document should be adopted with a target status of Experimental
> 
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 6:00 AM Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net <mailto:brian@innovationslab.net>> wrote:
> All,
>      This starts a DPRIVE WG call for adoption for
> draft-pauly-dprive-oblivious-doh
> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pauly-dprive-oblivious-doh/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pauly-dprive-oblivious-doh/>).
> Please reply to the mailing list with your views (positive or negative)
> on the WG adopting the document and your supporting arguments.
> 
>      This call will end on March 31, 2021 at 11:59pm UTC.
> 
> Regards,
> Brian & Tim
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