Re: [dns-privacy] DPRIVE agenda for IETF 111

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Fri, 16 July 2021 23:06 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 16:05:28 -0700
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To: Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net>
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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] DPRIVE agenda for IETF 111
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On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 12:43 PM Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net>
wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> On 7/16/21 1:02 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Jul 2021, Brian Haberman wrote:
> >
> >>    Here is the preliminary agenda for the DPRIVE session at IETF 111.
> >> If there are no objections or late additions, the chairs will cancel the
> >> second 1-hour slot assigned to DPRIVE.
> >>
> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/materials/agenda-111-dprive-00
> >
> > As we have two drafts that are assuming that SVCB records for a zone can
> > be served at the parent, I think we need to talk aboutthis at the
> meeting.
> >
>
> None of those draft authors requested agenda time.
>

Yeah, we've been swamped. We would like agende time if it's still available.

-Ekr


> > I've tried to convey that this is an unrealistic reality, and that work
> > should focus on this not happening, eg drafts should not specify
> > "interim" solutions for this to happen. It would be good to get clear
> > working group consensus on this so the draft authors can take that
> > consensus into account for future draft versions.
>
> If you want to lead that discussion, please let the chairs know.
>
> Regards,
> Brian
>
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