Re: [dns-privacy] draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-profiles: strict privacy
"Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Fri, 28 October 2016 15:40 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-profiles: strict privacy
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On 28 Oct 2016, at 8:27, Bob Harold wrote: > In Section 5 on Opportunistic Privacy, I am not sure "MAY" is correct. > If > the user chooses Opportunistic, I would think the server MUST try to > be > secure, in whatever ways are possible, but MAY fall back to less > secure, > only if those fail. In TLS, it's not the server that tries to be secure, it's the client. The server offers a bunch of stuff, but only once. The client picks, but only once. --Paul Hoffman
- [dns-privacy] draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-prof… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dns-privacy] draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-… Sara Dickinson
- Re: [dns-privacy] draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dns-privacy] draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-… Sara Dickinson
- Re: [dns-privacy] draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-… Bob Harold
- Re: [dns-privacy] draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dns-privacy] draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-… Sara Dickinson
- Re: [dns-privacy] draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-… Bob Harold
- Re: [dns-privacy] draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-… Paul Hoffman
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- Re: [dns-privacy] draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-… Sara Dickinson