IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [dns-privacy] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-dprive-bcp-op-08: (with DISCUSS)

"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Thu, 06 February 2020 14:17 UTC

Return-Path: <evyncke@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B546812026E; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 06:17:11 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -14.498
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.498 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com header.b=bH3CCYj/; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.onmicrosoft.com header.b=hge10tc9
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yweHVjVlmnMW; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 06:17:09 -0800 (PST)
Received: from rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com [173.37.86.77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B192512008A; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 06:17:08 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2670; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1580998628; x=1582208228; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=pd+zztGMNruP1ZY6ueNzMbuqyKevBFCedakmb6BWkAE=; b=bH3CCYj/0kkJXrd3tOe5y4WogkNRACZhHhYWeMI1KVdiJL/onESfckms jqxK65+eJeIN7+tKIHR42JgS9r7Te5KFyXZE5mG5gqLBz3r9hTCmLPiI7 rCJJryPrB+wDFigdb342r2ro3JYXSidH1kJ+METbFNVwjuwaKznWauY8N 0=;
IronPort-PHdr: 9a23:8Bg1GxR10LE543afy61XUNLf5Npsv++ubAcI9poqja5Pea2//pPkeVbS/uhpkESXBdfA8/wRje3QvuigQmEG7Zub+FE6OJ1XH15g640NmhA4RsuMCEn1NvnvOiEkDcJJV1JN9HCgOk8TE8H7NBXf
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0BLAAA5Hjxe/4QNJK1mDg4BAQEBAQcBAREBBAQBAYFnBwEBCwGBU1AFbFggBAsqhBWDRgOEWoYmgjqYN4EuFIEQA1QJAQEBDAEBIwoCAQGEQAIXgiYkNAkOAgMNAQEEAQEBAgEFBG2FNwyFZwIBAxIREQwBATcBDwIBCBoCJgICAjAVEAIEAQ0FIoMEAYJKAy4BDqBEAoE5iGJ1gTKCfwEBBYFDQYM2GIIMAwaBDioBhR6EO4JJGoFBP4E4DBSCTD6CZAIBAgGBLAESAQcaFyECglYygiyNZoJ1nxQKgjqHSopVhCcbgkiIEJAzjmKIbI8rTYI/AgQCBAUCDgEBBYFSOWdYEQhwFWUBgkFQGA2OHYNzhRSFBDt0AoEnim+CMgEB
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.70,409,1574121600"; d="scan'208";a="718696496"
Received: from alln-core-10.cisco.com ([173.36.13.132]) by rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA; 06 Feb 2020 14:17:07 +0000
Received: from XCH-RCD-005.cisco.com (xch-rcd-005.cisco.com [173.37.102.15]) by alln-core-10.cisco.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 016EH71U024109 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 6 Feb 2020 14:17:07 GMT
Received: from xhs-aln-001.cisco.com (173.37.135.118) by XCH-RCD-005.cisco.com (173.37.102.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1473.3; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 08:17:06 -0600
Received: from xhs-rtp-001.cisco.com (64.101.210.228) by xhs-aln-001.cisco.com (173.37.135.118) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1473.3; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 08:17:06 -0600
Received: from NAM12-BN8-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (64.101.32.56) by xhs-rtp-001.cisco.com (64.101.210.228) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1473.3 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 09:17:06 -0500
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=cDGp+dLqVFAibaEL895eFBosNkAwqXjcdThxQdROK7WbKP7l7BcKVthcfknb/cukClI91nqzEmNzQrZ6ZAX5jAQGw5tmTNo7cMCcGSmRi4aVGIQHqLsyqyDiUM8qR74+eiJPry8G6aBe+bDrNu2Av5jyYEN5BecOAEmlXvnuZkQQ0gs7JdMNU1MMrpncMVmfoct6GY5Ih73LbsD5V6vYgBfshOCEHH98iExpGnRKhCqdey9aXSlLF6zTo1maclj9ZaTJJ9dxPsRnmFpEo0ZYtAon0rXxZPAmHBns1hJ/w7Sc253rLjRtZnaHaHI1500rv7586PUSR2RehyB18oEWYQ==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=pd+zztGMNruP1ZY6ueNzMbuqyKevBFCedakmb6BWkAE=; b=SRu3cZypvNHYGJvXgzAKb5+6bF5poi7Xsl33U992jWBOaxnhGqTPpIm6crfsWpmoZZJJOCf1cje4/8OeleGIF+96yjnZ0rCwrS3ttpbwObH4HG3YvnbGcl9nI9KxzsO7rtnY48lIoutwZe/MgTXp1yG2ccgRysOu7nFmeGAjquFoUyR0thAwM6TlDpja6z9wlfqI5xhIg6sVd25CICQia3ynCwXeqy0os3ZnNvXA6whp5ALMnQBecioHVDRFxD1dTvwB1BqvVcBc7cYGw3CdKd0KAojZAD4BqPcIImMswUOr4d84GXS4JbuDPBGYaMGSiROh7eLRje4lsIHkgmQNIQ==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cisco.com; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=cisco.com; dkim=pass header.d=cisco.com; arc=none
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cisco.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector2-cisco-onmicrosoft-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=pd+zztGMNruP1ZY6ueNzMbuqyKevBFCedakmb6BWkAE=; b=hge10tc95DqZwAH9wK3Ml/QqsiQQoJJxt5mtGlWVvgjHw0Umb62R4JpSxe1Ibbmo+k3O2BbzMRKQbDn6+HvTgd+vCbYJql0VMTq0RI6WL1bjrY5MSnLXi/QWI01ylEPUj2kmXgL3GbwXFfQ+rZF+e6CCIwzYDAcVhmXPQ/P1lb0=
Received: from DM5PR11MB1753.namprd11.prod.outlook.com (10.175.88.141) by DM5PR11MB1465.namprd11.prod.outlook.com (10.172.35.145) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.2707.21; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 14:17:05 +0000
Received: from DM5PR11MB1753.namprd11.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::680d:e22e:72d5:67ca]) by DM5PR11MB1753.namprd11.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::680d:e22e:72d5:67ca%3]) with mapi id 15.20.2707.020; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 14:17:05 +0000
From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
CC: "tjw.ietf@gmail.com" <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>, "draft-ietf-dprive-bcp-op@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-dprive-bcp-op@ietf.org>, "dns-privacy@ietf.org" <dns-privacy@ietf.org>, "dprive-chairs@ietf.org" <dprive-chairs@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-dprive-bcp-op-08: (with DISCUSS)
Thread-Index: AQHV3Pga5lLdQXSzAU6fUM9ADTu3Xw==
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2020 14:17:05 +0000
Message-ID: <6BD57DA4-48E0-41D0-8522-C31CD29C1838@cisco.com>
References: <158077202405.28556.2742490181027799377.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com>
In-Reply-To: <158077202405.28556.2742490181027799377.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com>
Accept-Language: fr-BE, en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/10.21.0.200113
authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=evyncke@cisco.com;
x-originating-ip: [2001:420:c0c1:36:19a4:348b:1c15:547e]
x-ms-publictraffictype: Email
x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 20696925-f126-4084-99ac-08d7ab0f3e38
x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: DM5PR11MB1465:
x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: <DM5PR11MB1465E3AA69C6F6F0E37A7F10A91D0@DM5PR11MB1465.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:9508;
x-forefront-prvs: 0305463112
x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(4636009)(346002)(396003)(39860400002)(376002)(366004)(136003)(199004)(189003)(5660300002)(86362001)(6512007)(478600001)(966005)(71200400001)(6486002)(4326008)(6506007)(2906002)(54906003)(66946007)(316002)(33656002)(8676002)(66476007)(66556008)(64756008)(66446008)(186003)(81156014)(2616005)(36756003)(81166006)(8936002)(110136005)(76116006)(91956017); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:DM5PR11MB1465; H:DM5PR11MB1753.namprd11.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; LANG:en; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1;
received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: cisco.com does not designate permitted sender hosts)
x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1
x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: 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
x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata: StCdwnqS9fvHnybXPHUi/LnVgkgBJsWfDuKcCwQcM2/b6uJIPC/rJKGUALRQMqu61zOomiM+KX2INrlbyzhOLI41o39YnYLYYysB+JPnuLgZ3GoXI34p6sXIgShyTVOk0ty/okAQRXuDa4rrCdoXtbadLOY9FUhsuwsej2MQ6zzgV/5daFHlKffPqucAb2vjdc/KTJhnPxsZaOu4EMwEYA==
x-ms-exchange-transport-forked: True
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-ID: <21EC7A201CB09A4F9C882897D573850F@namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 20696925-f126-4084-99ac-08d7ab0f3e38
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 06 Feb 2020 14:17:05.1740 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 5ae1af62-9505-4097-a69a-c1553ef7840e
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: wpoCsqbPurH9nK+ROPnpczNUS3p9FRP/P2Z3eIh096Ds/QCmwRrWS43ZE2XHEq3QO3aNzvBNlCwEqUKvzaiG/g==
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM5PR11MB1465
X-OriginatorOrg: cisco.com
X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 173.37.102.15, xch-rcd-005.cisco.com
X-Outbound-Node: alln-core-10.cisco.com
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dns-privacy/vT4HqKhJbYgaL3hbEFU_Zb4gs1g>
Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-dprive-bcp-op-08: (with DISCUSS)
X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: <dns-privacy.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dns-privacy>, <mailto:dns-privacy-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dns-privacy/>
List-Post: <mailto:dns-privacy@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dns-privacy-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-privacy>, <mailto:dns-privacy-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2020 14:17:12 -0000

<AD hat off>

Hello Ben,

At least your original DISCUSS will be easy to fix as section 2.5.3 of the 7626bis document " “rogue servers”  is currently the section 3.5.1.2 and has been renamed into “Active attack on resolvers configuration”.

Of course, your new and 2nd DISCUSS is still open

<AD hat on>

-éric

On 04/02/2020, 00:20, "iesg on behalf of Benjamin Kaduk via Datatracker" <iesg-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of noreply@ietf.org> wrote:

    Benjamin Kaduk has entered the following ballot position for
    draft-ietf-dprive-bcp-op-08: Discuss
    
    When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
    email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this
    introductory paragraph, however.)
    
    
    Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
    for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
    
    
    The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dprive-bcp-op/
    
    
    
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    DISCUSS:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    This document is trying to make normative references to sections of
    draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis that have not existed since the -00 of that
    document, with the content having been removed for being too controversial.
    Do we need to delay processing this document until 7626bis has settled down
    and it is clear what content we can refer to in that vs. needing to incorporate
    into this document?  (It's unclear that such content would be less controversial
    in this document than in that one.)
    Specifically, Section 5.1.2 of this document refers to Section 2.5.3 of that document
    ("Rogue Servers").

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email