From nobody Mon Apr 19 13:44:09 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4823A4349 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:44:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=innovationslab-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tavXbtcWS64B for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qk1-x736.google.com (mail-qk1-x736.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::736]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FF053A441E for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk1-x736.google.com with SMTP id y136so5165410qkb.1 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:43:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=innovationslab-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=to:references:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to; bh=szFO0BxMS0ct8BrBRoqMeXSf+MaqyftEVN6jKxUjyl8=; b=M8suTietkUZxguzmHUoplU2wJ69NNvVvkQDSrIgRSP2jecduCTV9r+DLTURRL3Ep4/ irbjHIeKxUblVEm1WSHGaHSC5kdOTovVff7CJAp3fi1ueHJU86CwT1TtcEcO+a95SlsX o+couqQNDc/eXkL0D/RTINVOeyWRWr7gktSjSXpEDK7eCqYUtxyVxNKT40GL8iZN3T+P 2b4Y0KqrJGpucfKobZRhoGO/AwDo0MFPkPf7nODpDGY/QsLGlRuxke4lnolHbTxYUelP UmGOZPPpIvgzp3TWH18XySZKK+kUXpSegkHLmRAFEwSmNMaC5l4rkA8sXVF1AtZ1gDjZ Oncw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:to:references:from:subject:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=szFO0BxMS0ct8BrBRoqMeXSf+MaqyftEVN6jKxUjyl8=; b=LagZ+6mi52v9S0BwiPs9r9hkaM0mqvJjIzDpWTzHXwT2C61Qdz0KrIvbe/YG0a/W2A QGGl1m8SjBmYfQGSlRhT1pLd8ZWHf/POJF8bP5v7NTTMyxhe5TmvOqpBrUpL2RPjTTE0 JInu/p45mL4lEOXZLl5+MboCkTfC8fFPL/caZ8dhjdJZw78lU3Y0FAuYNCVK12aZ57Ar zD7i1WzaegXqOxsYIW4HAuWKo6ARjElodXJkv2QXf/JrpjGGh0cCxCC9r9QL10t+0pfc w0CWHCGhktGVW7maFct6vq8uu6G5ih2RcWEp2Qu4mfy0eMnhnjCRSCWFahkK+c9rx+yM 2YzQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530s25vR5Azol/ZiRqeQe56ifwZo45tP93iEVdn2GRPxvAR8T5Z+ 1jrSphxnAC+lyT/xeKWryN0p6xmxW/zSXLYH X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxsxc+oj5dLUEwKVva+bAB1cq5lw14EYWZLkQNSikg0nNWeoxkk2GJK2QK05yCu+cgl3vEuBw== X-Received: by 2002:ae9:e8c1:: with SMTP id a184mr14281802qkg.98.1618865029044; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clemson.local ([2601:5ce:300:84e:e100:20ab:6e21:190e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 19sm10438099qky.67.2021.04.19.13.43.48 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:43:48 -0700 (PDT) To: dns-privacy@ietf.org References: <064c169412764689a3129b8e162806ac@verisign.com> <1BE0F181-68A1-464A-9D7D-824181F4A69B@icann.org> From: Brian Haberman Message-ID: <6db404b2-7367-8400-6830-c5ef5b77532a@innovationslab.net> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 16:43:47 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FxF4e8DZZRHpBUiKRl7nJ2h2Bd41KsndQ" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] A Few More Suggestions for the Requirements Draft X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 20:44:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --FxF4e8DZZRHpBUiKRl7nJ2h2Bd41KsndQ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="hRrrAsgBweqeI9UgZztp7iSetI3B36eXQ"; protected-headers="v1" From: Brian Haberman To: dns-privacy@ietf.org Message-ID: <6db404b2-7367-8400-6830-c5ef5b77532a@innovationslab.net> Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] A Few More Suggestions for the Requirements Draft References: <064c169412764689a3129b8e162806ac@verisign.com> <1BE0F181-68A1-464A-9D7D-824181F4A69B@icann.org> In-Reply-To: --hRrrAsgBweqeI9UgZztp7iSetI3B36eXQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 4/19/21 1:58 PM, Danny McPherson wrote: > On 2021-04-19 13:52, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> >> I don't think so, because the WG has been actively developing those >> requirements without the draft moving forward, just by having good WG >> discussions. >=20 > Not sure what that means.=C2=A0 Is there a summary of those "good WG > discussions" and where consensus may or may not exist? >=20 > I'd prefer to have some succinct and comprehensive requirements here > before finishing all the solutioning... >=20 The goal of the referenced work item is to ensure that the WG participants agree on the requirements. Having that be done in a draft is far cleaner than relying on various people's recollections of discussions. If everyone goes back to the minutes of our session during IETF 110, Benno explicitly told the WG that he is happy to work on a revision *with WG input*. I view Scott's messages to the ML as being an attempt to provide such feedback to the draft authors on what he sees as useful changes to the draft. Scott's suggestions should be discussed to see what suggestions have consensus. 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