From nobody Mon Apr 19 10:14:38 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8C73A3B46 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:14:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P3rG5sLKwB8l for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppa3.lax.icann.org (ppa3.lax.icann.org [192.0.33.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3D903A3B47 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MBX112-W2-CO-2.pexch112.icann.org (out.mail.icann.org [64.78.33.6]) by ppa3.lax.icann.org (8.16.0.43/8.16.0.43) with ESMTPS id 13JHEVgX025302 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 17:14:31 GMT Received: from MBX112-W2-CO-1.pexch112.icann.org (10.226.41.128) by MBX112-W2-CO-1.pexch112.icann.org (10.226.41.128) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.2.858.5; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:14:30 -0700 Received: from MBX112-W2-CO-1.pexch112.icann.org ([10.226.41.128]) by MBX112-W2-CO-1.pexch112.icann.org ([10.226.41.128]) with mapi id 15.02.0858.010; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:14:30 -0700 From: Paul Hoffman To: "dprive@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Ext] [dns-privacy] A Few More Suggestions for the Requirements Draft Thread-Index: Adc1JmDTl2PA57CeQxawHvYGbccYdAAU8D4A Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 17:14:30 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.0.32.234] x-source-routing-agent: Processed Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D3F5D112-C626-420A-8BA2-5F2BA636D9A1"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.391, 18.0.761 definitions=2021-04-19_11:2021-04-19, 2021-04-19 signatures=0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] A Few More Suggestions for the Requirements Draft X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 17:14:37 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D3F5D112-C626-420A-8BA2-5F2BA636D9A1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Apr 19, 2021, at 8:08 AM, Hollenbeck, Scott = wrote: > I have a few more suggestions for = draft-ietf-dprive-phase2-requirements. Before we start making point-level suggestions for the draft, it would = be useful to know whether the draft is still being worked on, and what = its expected status will be. The draft has not been updated in nearly = six months, even though the authors said they would after the IETF = meeting five months ago. My feeling from that is that the authors have = lost interest, and maybe the WG has as well. The purpose of the draft has shifted significantly. The -02 draft = changed from "requirements" to "requirements and considerations". The = meat of the draft (Section 5) is no longer requirements, but "features"; = however, there are still MUST and SHOULDs among those features. If the WG continues to work on this document, it would be good to first = say what it's new purpose is (such as requirements on solutions = documents), and whether it should be expected to be published as an RFC = or just kept as a checklist before the WG moves other documents forward. --Paul Hoffman= --Apple-Mail=_D3F5D112-C626-420A-8BA2-5F2BA636D9A1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCCBrYw ggayMIIFmqADAgECAhMwAAAV3RBqFEZex8dMAAMAABXdMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMF8xEzARBgoJ kiaJk/IsZAEZFgNvcmcxFTATBgoJkiaJk/IsZAEZFgVpY2FubjESMBAGCgmSJomT8ixkARkWAmRz MR0wGwYDVQQDExRhZDEtbGF4LmRzLmljYW5uLm9yZzAeFw0yMDA5MTkxODA3MTlaFw0yMjA5MTkx ODA3MTlaMIGUMRMwEQYKCZImiZPyLGQBGRYDb3JnMRUwEwYKCZImiZPyLGQBGRYFaWNhbm4xEjAQ BgoJkiaJk/IsZAEZFgJkczEUMBIGA1UECxMLSUNBTk4tVXNlcnMxFTATBgNVBAMTDFBhdWwgSG9m Zm1hbjElMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYWcGF1bC5ob2ZmbWFuQGljYW5uLm9yZzCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcN AQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBAMyCemeYYZjhFjqol6d0KFelzUOUxRgoLxxuCY67ssb2elDgD8Vu 0O5fqMb5GwKWGZknC9uG3l3Of8pnfMlHpeFpLz9abvV/esea+JDxt+RgZLZRvJtZ/lVV86BZnjAO kKtLboRpfXTAobOllRTMcDaRksynf2FiF8VPB9vIsAxNT6/p8P3X84zAkBUX9BI1p9Pf/+ksRkau c40q/N7AuAVYAQlOwnN2QG+64T6ofP6kr3DanHuYg2C/5G3RXX58azNgSYnopJ0AiFY9e4M7iVxm Ll5wgmBGtVoLdjFe9HnCk5EdqKk5CE1ll7akYuvMNUqK1ingA5IjAvRZc9hD818CAwEAAaOCAy8w ggMrMB0GA1UdDgQWBBSh5qyXEQo8kO1LLYUKzpRiMxIHMzAfBgNVHSMEGDAWgBTpKerCBbuXyks/ cnl6+luCS7lqhDCB2QYDVR0fBIHRMIHOMIHLoIHIoIHFhoHCbGRhcDovLy9DTj1hZDEtbGF4LmRz LmljYW5uLm9yZygxKSxDTj1hZDEtbGF4LENOPUNEUCxDTj1QdWJsaWMlMjBLZXklMjBTZXJ2aWNl cyxDTj1TZXJ2aWNlcyxDTj1Db25maWd1cmF0aW9uLERDPWRzLERDPWljYW5uLERDPW9yZz9jZXJ0 aWZpY2F0ZVJldm9jYXRpb25MaXN0P2Jhc2U/b2JqZWN0Q2xhc3M9Y1JMRGlzdHJpYnV0aW9uUG9p bnQwgcoGCCsGAQUFBwEBBIG9MIG6MIG3BggrBgEFBQcwAoaBqmxkYXA6Ly8vQ049YWQxLWxheC5k cy5pY2Fubi5vcmcsQ049QUlBLENOPVB1YmxpYyUyMEtleSUyMFNlcnZpY2VzLENOPVNlcnZpY2Vz LENOPUNvbmZpZ3VyYXRpb24sREM9ZHMsREM9aWNhbm4sREM9b3JnP2NBQ2VydGlmaWNhdGU/YmFz ZT9vYmplY3RDbGFzcz1jZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uQXV0aG9yaXR5MA4GA1UdDwEB/wQEAwIFoDA9Bgkr BgEEAYI3FQcEMDAuBiYrBgEEAYI3FQiBurJNhMjIaoOtkz+HlPRag/mIbk6H68s/hoOYWgIBZAIB BzApBgNVHSUEIjAgBgorBgEEAYI3CgMEBggrBgEFBQcDBAYIKwYBBQUHAwIwNQYJKwYBBAGCNxUK BCgwJjAMBgorBgEEAYI3CgMEMAoGCCsGAQUFBwMEMAoGCCsGAQUFBwMCMEkGA1UdEQRCMECgJgYK KwYBBAGCNxQCA6AYDBZwYXVsLmhvZmZtYW5AaWNhbm4ub3JngRZwYXVsLmhvZmZtYW5AaWNhbm4u b3JnMEQGCSqGSIb3DQEJDwQ3MDUwDgYIKoZIhvcNAwICAgCAMA4GCCqGSIb3DQMEAgIAgDAHBgUr DgMCBzAKBggqhkiG9w0DBzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFAAOCAQEATidKimzbAoiiUW1wn7PWGyvBra29 qfQFUkoiN910zUtEigII3eYlf6lgokLPem1VGMAbRDJaDZNDy/1piuJFxtH2qLqqM1KL0jhLD62I 1JlpoUSSVCs0I0c+WoMafG1+TxDHvKOJ+88uR5EE61qoeHBe5pCIeQYzPyEbcJRIqavNj6DKg5Nm AwkwZwCSPGwb7WlKwxnf3X+Zx2emG+AB6k+q+jZA3obglwR5NFov1CeOuW5qQNzB9FIzbZGDjNsJ SwY0ygGnYItvhxb+if9I4NnuZGy41dwwDql40ZGmJg1yUV8niDpUxFUdAdXdeCoVoTPAK7ZDUS8y bo/Iyo/aEzGCAyAwggMcAgEBMHYwXzETMBEGCgmSJomT8ixkARkWA29yZzEVMBMGCgmSJomT8ixk ARkWBWljYW5uMRIwEAYKCZImiZPyLGQBGRYCZHMxHTAbBgNVBAMTFGFkMS1sYXguZHMuaWNhbm4u b3JnAhMwAAAV3RBqFEZex8dMAAMAABXdMA0GCWCGSAFlAwQCAQUAoIIBezAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMx CwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0yMTA0MTkxNzE0MzBaMC8GCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEi BCB4/aboNV3n0Rh4G/Hg5+rbbb49IprXB0CW6HQm/kFv4jCBhQYJKwYBBAGCNxAEMXgwdjBfMRMw EQYKCZImiZPyLGQBGRYDb3JnMRUwEwYKCZImiZPyLGQBGRYFaWNhbm4xEjAQBgoJkiaJk/IsZAEZ FgJkczEdMBsGA1UEAxMUYWQxLWxheC5kcy5pY2Fubi5vcmcCEzAAABXdEGoURl7Hx0wAAwAAFd0w gYcGCyqGSIb3DQEJEAILMXigdjBfMRMwEQYKCZImiZPyLGQBGRYDb3JnMRUwEwYKCZImiZPyLGQB GRYFaWNhbm4xEjAQBgoJkiaJk/IsZAEZFgJkczEdMBsGA1UEAxMUYWQxLWxheC5kcy5pY2Fubi5v cmcCEzAAABXdEGoURl7Hx0wAAwAAFd0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAEggEAWiuh3c9bbSOjAfb9Sowe kpKeAlt7855thxgifWyTDStJGQ+taO0sqSX/DlBuJgstQNT+VeM8MvbshqFlfwJc5Mxo5f+zyQBo uyX7ZlviyULCm29FmriILF61PF60Deq64Iczq7LZvO21mqz/LH7aNKCG9TxbT5u4A/MOGjB/Cg4h Stl97p3Xmre7Av8XRcWqq9WY386Y5fmsXB5Ghv7BEqUWEPtsqJOSayeBTLm/av0KvXKJnr+8hzCE FgTIOLmYD2viCc3f87XsgUn+OSr7HgY2lAxjZsHmcZFJXjDvS6t/eSXJ4WqjDHgbO8vsjdmAopfI fQdRfXhGDw9+5sW9KQAAAAAAAA== --Apple-Mail=_D3F5D112-C626-420A-8BA2-5F2BA636D9A1--