Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packet, multiple packet responses
"Wiley, Glen" <gwiley@verisign.com> Fri, 21 March 2014 14:57 UTC
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From: "Wiley, Glen" <gwiley@verisign.com>
To: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>, Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
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-- Glen Wiley KK4SFV Sr. Engineer The Hive, Verisign, Inc. On 3/21/14 10:54 AM, "Stephane Bortzmeyer" <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote: >On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 01:40:01PM -0400, > Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> wrote > a message of 144 lines which said: > >> One consequence of encrypting DNS traffic is that we break backwards >> compatibility. > >Just a reminder: "This list is for the discussion of the problem >statement surrounding the addition of privacy to the DNS protocol." >Privacy is the goal, encryption may be a solution. This list is >dns-privacy, not dns-encryption. +1 > >> Since we are going to break backwards compatibility we should take >> the opportunity to fix some of the problems in the DNS protocol. > >I disagree with this approach: adding encryption, should we decide it, >is more than enough work to keep an IETF mailing list active for many >months (years?) Saying "hey, cool, the gates are open, let's try to >push all the other stuff I want" seems a sure recipe for a second >system failure <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-system_effect>. The past decade of chatter regarding changes to DNS is a strong indicator of the need to keep the scope of these changes tightly constrained if there is any hope of producing consensus on a solution. > >> So I would like to require a server that supports the crypto query >>protocol >> to be required to actually implement what is written in 1035 and >>respond to >> multiple queries. > >RFC 1035 is quite broken here since it does not say how to set the >status code when the different questions yield differente results. In >the last years, several people have proposed to update RFC 1035 to >make this scheme workable (for instance by requesting that all the >questions use the same qname or by having several response packets, as >you suggest) but it never went far. > > >_______________________________________________ >dns-privacy mailing list >dns-privacy@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-privacy
- [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packet, m… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Tony Finch
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Tony Finch
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Paul Wouters
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Tony Finch
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Ted Hardie
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Matthijs Mekking
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Paul Wouters
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Paul Wouters
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Joe Abley
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Paul Wouters
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Wiley, Glen
- Re: [dns-privacy] Multiple DNS requests per packe… Phillip Hallam-Baker