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Re: [dnsext] Moderate one's tone, please.

Derek Atkins <warlord@MIT.EDU> Wed, 02 February 2011 13:05 UTC

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From: Derek Atkins <warlord@MIT.EDU>
To: Paul Wouters <paul@xelerance.com>
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Subject: Re: [dnsext] Moderate one's tone, please.
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Paul Wouters <paul@xelerance.com> writes:

> On Tue, 1 Feb 2011, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>
>> I know that my particular views are well founded in industry practice and
>> experience. I have worked on this particular problem for over fifteen
>> years.
>
> This is an example of such an appeal to authority that some people keep
> using, usually combined with general all-encompassing statements.
>
>> I do not think that you can truthfully claim an equivalent level of
>> expertise.
>
> I am reminded of your claim of 20 years of DNSSEC experience at the
> Toronto TASK meeting......

Not to necessarily defend Phill, but that's certainly possible.  I was
working on a DNSSec implementation in 1995.  That was... 16 years ago.

> Paul

-derek

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