Re: How do we get the whole world to upgrade to DNSSEC capable resolvers?

Mark Andrews <Mark_Andrews@isc.org> Tue, 12 August 2008 22:49 UTC

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From: Mark Andrews <Mark_Andrews@isc.org>
Subject: Re: How do we get the whole world to upgrade to DNSSEC capable resolvers?
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> At 11:18 +1000 8/11/08, Mark Andrews wrote:
> 
> >	DNS security is required for SMTP security to work.
> 
> That is why the SIKED (Secure Internet KEy Distribution) BoF failed, 53rd IET
> F.
> 
> If SMTP security works because DNS security works, then a DNS 
> security failure means SMTP security fails too.  A house of cards. 
> This is what is feared.

Lots of things really depend on DNS working as intended.  I'm just
sick and tired of all those who think that hop by hop security is
enough for the DNS.  It isn't and it never has been.

It is time to put the little bit of effort into creating DNSKEY's
and signing your zones.  It really isn't a big operational effort
that everyone keeps saying it is without actually attempting to
do it.

> (see also http://www.potaroo.net/ietf/idref/draft-lewis-siked-dnsargs/)
> 
> Thanks to Geoff Huston for maintaining that repository.  Although I'd 
> call it "Pandora's Box" because of all of the bad ideas documented in 
> there that never mad it to RFC. ;)
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