Re: [dnsext] DNSEXT closing down soon
Jaap Akkerhuis <jaap@NLnetLabs.nl> Mon, 05 December 2011 09:20 UTC
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Comments: In-reply-to Edward Lewis <Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz> message dated "Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:19:48 -0500."
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:20:42 +0100
From: Jaap Akkerhuis <jaap@NLnetLabs.nl>
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Subject: Re: [dnsext] DNSEXT closing down soon
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What I have dealt with most recently is the deviation of implementations from the as-written specifications. In operations, there is no perceived problem, the protocol chunks along, there's a huge industry based on it. It's even created a large market for intangible assets - to put that mildly. Yet the documents have not kept pace. If there's work to do, it's not engineering, it's document clean up. There seems little appetite for that, which bodes poorly for a working group, especially one consisting of volunteers. The last document I worked was AXFR-"clarify" and I didn't even finish it because of what I perceived to be general apathy. The document was needed, and carried to the finish by Alfred, but I didn't see much of a "group" effort to work on it. Since a lot of the tweaking also comes from actually from the operational site (how was X really supposed to work; can we optimize Y; etc.) maybe some if not most of the left-overs can be moved to the dnsops group? Or is that WG also going to retire). Questions I have: Will the mail list continue? If so, how will current non-subscribers learn of the list? There is the usual non-WG list page <http://www.ietf.org/list/nonwg.html> and there are actually other lists (such as OARC related lists) where one see DNS discussion popping up. Then referral to the namedroppers and or dnsops make take place. Who will be the focal point for questions from other WGs about DNS? Given the discussion I noticed, there is a guild of the black helicopter pilots :-). Are all instructions to IANA complete and understood? Hard to answer, are they ever? jaap
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