Re: [dnsext] Moderate one's tone, please.
Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> Tue, 01 February 2011 20:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dnsext] Moderate one's tone, please.
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Paul Hoffman wrote: > Phill was making technical statements, not "views". His technical > statements were wrong. True. But, the fundamental problem is that PKI, in general, is broken and not really securely operational. What you are seeing is desperate attempts to defend PKI by believers in. Of course, you can't expect religious statements technically correct. But, it is hard, if not impossible, to convince believers in of the technical reality, if a religion has decades of history with a lot of believers in. The believers in are well trained not to admit some technical problems and won't accept proposals to solve the problems, because they know the proposals cause other problems. Masataka Ohta
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- Re: [dnsext] draft-jabley-dnsop-validator-bootstr… John Bashinski
- Re: [dnsext] draft-jabley-dnsop-validator-bootstr… Joe Abley
- Re: [dnsext] draft-jabley-dnsop-validator-bootstr… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dnsext] draft-jabley-dnsop-validator-bootstr… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dnsext] draft-jabley-dnsop-validator-bootstr… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dnsext] draft-jabley-dnsop-validator-bootstr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dnsext] draft-jabley-dnsop-validator-bootstr… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- [dnsext] Moderate one's tone, please. (was: draft… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dnsext] Moderate one's tone, please. Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dnsext] Moderate one's tone, please. Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dnsext] Moderate one's tone, please. Paul Wouters
- Re: [dnsext] Moderate one's tone, please. Paul Wouters
- Re: [dnsext] Moderate one's tone, please. Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dnsext] Moderate one's tone, please. Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dnsext] draft-jabley-dnsop-validator-bootstr… Tony Finch
- Re: [dnsext] Moderate one's tone, please. Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] draft-jabley-dnsop-validator-bootstr… Jakob Schlyter
- Re: [dnsext] Moderate one's tone, please. Derek Atkins
- Re: [dnsext] draft-jabley-dnsop-validator-bootstr… Danny Mayer