Re: [dnsext] New Version Notification for draft-ah-dnsext-rfc1995bis-ixfr-02
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Subject: Re: [dnsext] New Version Notification for draft-ah-dnsext-rfc1995bis-ixfr-02
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In message <4E525476.4070001@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>, Masataka Ohta writes: > Shane Kerr wrote: > > > Consider an environment where one has 2 distribution servers at a node, > > Only 2 distribution servers? It should be a toy zone. > > And, do you mean "zone", not "node"? > > > If the node suffers a power failure, then it is quite possible that both > > distribution servers will need a full AXFR when they restart. > > Are you seriously saying that it is quite possible that two servers > simultaneously loss checkpointing information because of power > failure? No. I think Shane means that they have been out of contact long enough that the AXFR style response is smaller than the IXFR style response and the upstream supplied a AXFR style response. > Even then, there is no point of IXFR-only because, with your example, > neither server can offer IXFR. You are missing Shanes point, which is that after the initial AXFR style response that the slaves that transferred from the DM that transfered first, and hence had a lower serial, will not be able to get a delta style response from the other DM. > > If zone > > updates are frequent, there is a good chance that they will not have the > > exact same starting serial. > > So? See above. > > One solution is to have a single distribution server. > > It's no solution. I'm afraid you completely misunderstand DNS. Shane isn't saying that it is a desirable solution. The other solution is to prevent the axfr's out from the DM's until they both have the same serials available ixfr from. The is not to say that I'm apposed to ixfr only. > Masataka Ohta > _______________________________________________ > dnsext mailing list > dnsext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsext -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
- [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Brian Dickson
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Brian Dickson
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Brian Dickson
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Brian Dickson
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… W.C.A. Wijngaards
- [dnsext] Use case for IXFR-only, was Re: Fwd: New… Shane Kerr
- [dnsext] Slamming the TCP door, was Re: Fwd: New … Shane Kerr
- Re: [dnsext] Use case for IXFR-only, was Re: Fwd:… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] Slamming the TCP door, was Re: Fwd: … Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] Slamming the TCP door, was Re: Fwd: … Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] Use case for IXFR-only, was Re: Fwd:… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] Slamming the TCP door, was Re: Fwd: … Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] Slamming the TCP door, was Re: Fwd: … W.C.A. Wijngaards
- Re: [dnsext] Slamming the TCP door, was Re: Fwd: … Josh Littlefield
- Re: [dnsext] Slamming the TCP door, was Re: Fwd: … Josh Littlefield
- Re: [dnsext] Slamming the TCP door, was Re: Fwd: … Paul Vixie
- Re: [dnsext] Slamming the TCP door, was Re: Fwd: … Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] Slamming the TCP door, was Re: Fwd: … Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] Slamming the TCP door, was Re: Fwd: … Florian Weimer
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] New Version Notification for draft-a… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dnsext] New Version Notification for draft-a… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] New Version Notification for draft-a… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dnsext] New Version Notification for draft-a… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] New Version Notification for draft-a… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dnsext] New Version Notification for draft-a… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] New Version Notification for draft-a… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] New Version Notification for draft-a… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] New Version Notification for draft-a… Shane Kerr
- Re: [dnsext] New Version Notification for draft-a… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] New Version Notification for draft-a… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] New Version Notification for draft-a… Masataka Ohta