Re: [dnsext] Progress on moving the mailing list

Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 30 September 2010 21:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dnsext] Progress on moving the mailing list
From: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Sullivan <ajs@shinkuro.com>
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Howdy,

Any strong reason it shouldn't be "namedroppers@ietf.org"?  That list
name has a lot of history behind it, and having a consistent thread of
conversation connected to the name, if not its host, seems to me worth it.
An alias from dnsext@ietf.org to namedropper@ietf.org could be kept for
those wanting the WG Name pointer.

Full disclosure:  I was briefly the list monkey at SRI who kept
namedroppers@sri-nic
up, and I am likely being nostalgic.

Ted

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@shinkuro.com> wrote:
> Dear colleagues,
>
> Some time ago, we said we were going to move the WG mailing list from
> namedroppers@ops.ietf.org to dnsext@ietf.org.  This sort of fell off
> the radar as it looked like the WG was running out of things to do & I
> absurdly thought we might actually wind up or go back to sleep or
> something.  But with the rechartering in motion, it seemed to me we
> ought to make good on this.
>
> We've started the process, so the list dnsext@ietf.org has been created.
>
> At the moment, it has no members, and if you post to it your message
> will be moderated (and then we'll reject it).
>
> Over the coming period, we will subscribe all the existing
> namedroppers members to the dnsext@ietf.org list.  You will receive a
> message when this happens.  If you don't want to receive dnsext mail
> messages, then please unsubscribe then, or unsubscribe from
> namedroppers now.
>
> We will ask the operators of the namedroppers list to put an alias
> forwarding messaages to namedroppers instead to the dnsext list, and
> not to accept new subscriptions to namedroppers.  You won't get
> duplicate messages during the change over, and you won't lose mail to
> the list.  There will probably be a short period when new messages to
> the list are disallowed, and if you have filters that are using the
> exiting namedroppers headers, you will need to update them.
>
> I will post another announcement in the future with firm dates for the
> cutover.  I will give people ample notice of the cutover date so that
> they may update their filters.  In the meantime, the mail address will
> be dnsext@ietf.org and the RFC 2369 headers will follow the pattern of
> all the other lists hosted in the IETF mail infrastructure.
>
> Best regards,
>
> A
>
> --
> Andrew Sullivan
> ajs@shinkuro.com
> Shinkuro, Inc.
>
>