Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade
Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Tue, 22 March 2011 14:02 UTC
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To: Derek Atkins <warlord@MIT.EDU>
From: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
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Subject: Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade
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In message <sjmipvbcnt7.fsf@pgpdev.ihtfp.org>, Derek Atkins writes: > Francis Dupont <Francis.Dupont@fdupont.fr> writes: > > > In your previous mail you wrote: > > > > i.e. the zone is using SHA1 DS records, admin generates new KSK, > > publishes SHA256 DS for the new KSK but doesn't publish SHA256 DS > > for the old KSK, leading to validat ion failures. > > > > => this should never happen as the rule is in fact for the > > replacement of SHA1 by SHA256 as the DS digest algorithm. > > But don't believe we are saved: there are other DS digest algos > > (and even more to come) and the mixed algo case is dangerously > > under-specified... > > It also doesn't help protect against an active man-in-the-middle who can > make sure that the validator never receives the SHA256 DS RR. > Unfortunately the validator can only validate what it receives; there's > often not a way for it to know what it should expect to receive. This attack is not possible. > > Regards > > > > Francis.Dupont@fdupont.fr > > -derek > > -- > Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory > Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) > URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/ PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH > warlord@MIT.EDU PGP key available > _______________________________________________ > dnsext mailing list > dnsext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsext -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Derek Atkins
- [dnsext] DS digest downgrade George Barwood
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade George Barwood
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Francis Dupont
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade George Barwood
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Wes Hardaker
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Michael Graff
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Wes Hardaker
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Francis Dupont
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Joe Abley
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Wes Hardaker
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Wes Hardaker
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Matt McCutchen
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Matt McCutchen
- Re: [dnsext] DS digest downgrade Mark Andrews