Re: FWD: Re: Last Call: Representing IPv6 addresses in DNS to Proposed Standard
Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com> Thu, 14 March 2002 22:00 UTC
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From: Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com>
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Subject: Re: FWD: Re: Last Call: Representing IPv6 addresses in DNS to Proposed Standard
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How does anything in DNS affect routability? DNS is just a protocol for associating names with addresses, or more generally, names with "information". It doesn't have to be the only protocol that does that. I am further amused that Paul would call anyone (else) anticompetitive, and was rofl at the (his in particular) charge of "secret meetings" and "unratified decisions". Perhaps Paul should be chastised. --Dean On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Thomas Narten wrote: > FYI > > ------- Forwarded Message > > From: Paul Vixie <paul@vix.com> > To: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org> > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:24:13 -0800 > Subject: Re: Last Call: Representing IPv6 addresses in DNS to Proposed Standard > > Re: draft-ietf-dnsext-ipv6-addresses-01.txt > > i object. i consider this document, and the process which has led to it, > to be anticompetitive in the extreme. it will also relegate IPv6 to mobile > data applications and will cement NAT as the main way for enterprises of all > sizes to connect to "the internet." the process which led up to it involved > secret meetings and the decisions were never ratified by any working group. > > consider that IPv6 allows far larger enterprise networks to use globally > _unique_ address space than IPv4. now consider that no such enterprise will > have globally _routable_ address space except for a few large ISP's. this > disconnect between eligibility for globally _unique_ vs globally _routable_ > address space must inevitably lead to higher customer stiction by these few > large ISP's. the "renumbering penality" for an enterprise with its own > globally unique (but not globally routable) /64 is much higher than for an > enterprise with its own globally unique /27 and its own internal RFC1918 > cloud. > > this document leads to a scenario where multihoming can only be practical > for a small number of "externally visible" hosts, but never for the whole > enterprise. the artificially high "renumbering penalty" of a pure-AAAA > solution will either drive enterprises to continue using NAT and RFC1918, > or will drive them to remain customers of the ISP who owns their address > space regardless of market pressures to move elsewhere. > > crawford's A6/DNAME proposal has some warts but it has none of THESE warts. > > i am researching the appropriate federal agency to lodge a complaint about > anticompetitive activity, since the IETF's membership (including some of > the authors of this draft) are employees or agents of the large ISP's who > will benefit from a market stranglehold if this standard is approved. > > meanwhile, i urge that this document be shredded and its authors chastised. > > re: > > > To: IETF-Announce: ; > > Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org > > From: The IESG <iesg-secretary@ietf.org> > > SUBJECT: Last Call: Representing IPv6 addresses in DNS to Proposed > > Standard > > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:26:24 -0500 > > > > The IESG has received a request from the DNS Extensions Working Group > > to consider Representing IPv6 addresses in DNS > > <draft-ietf-dnsext-ipv6-addresses-01.txt> as a Proposed Standard. > > > > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits > > final comments on this action. Please send any comments to the > > iesg@ietf.org or ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by April 2, 2002. > > > > Files can be obtained via > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dnsext-ipv6-addresses-01.txt > > > ------- End of Forwarded Message > > -- > to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with > the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. > archive: <http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/> > -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: <http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/>
- FWD: Re: Last Call: Representing IPv6 addresses i… Thomas Narten
- Re: FWD: Re: Last Call: Representing IPv6 address… Dean Anderson