Re: [dnsext] the DNS Directorate and the end of dnsext
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To: Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com>
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Subject: Re: [dnsext] the DNS Directorate and the end of dnsext
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On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 11:43:28AM +0000, Jim Reid wrote: > On 4 Dec 2011, at 05:52, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: > > >YMMV of course, but I think leaving a directorate intact, > >unaccountable to the community, is a -really bad idea-. > > Bill, whatever your views on the accountability or otherwise of the > DNS Directorate, the topic is surely orthogonal to what happens to > dnsext? perhaps. if a directorate exists without a foundational wg to support it, what you end up with is an effective censure board that rules on proposed changes to the DNS, absent broad input from the community. absent a WG, what are the rules for becoming a member of the directorate and how is a member removed for cause? If you are comfortable w/ the IESG and the ADs making DNS protocol choices on yur behalf, then that is your perogative. I for one, am not and would like the ability to have/conviene a WG to solve DNS issues -BY THE COMMUNITY- and not by a closed, opaque body that is not accountable to that community. > I would presume the DNS Directorate (fine fellows that they are) are > accountable by the wise words of advice given to the ADs and WGs > whenever they need them. That said, it should be easier to find the > Directorates' home page on the IETF web site. [Perhaps a link on the > left hand-side, just like there is for WGs, IESG and so on.] It seems > this can only be found by feeding "Directorate" into the search box in > the top corner of www.ietf.org. I have the answer on who, we don't have answers on succession or accountablity /bill
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