Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasing draft
Paul Vixie <vixie@isc.org> Mon, 28 March 2011 06:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasing draft
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> Date: 27 Mar 2011 22:31:14 -0000 > From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> > ... > If it's an absolute requirement that no software outside the DNS can > change, then our answer is clear: manual name bundling, with manual > configuration of applications, we're done, so long. I don't hear much > support for that. let's get consensus around these as our only alternatives and if so publish the finding and ask for instructions. right now the fact that all we can offer is second class names is private dnsext-only opinion and needs to be upgraded to public knowledge so as to inform a decision. > So what can we offer? If it's something like CLONE or BNAME, we offer > an upgrade path. You're no worse off than you'd be with manual > bundling and manual application configuration, and to the extent you > upgrade your applications to know about the new DNS stuff, your > configuration job gets easier. > > That's not as cool as the mythical magic hack. Will people find it > useful? Having done my share of SMTP server hackery, I would. If > it's as important to handle variant names as people say it is, they'll > upgrade. If not, well, that's OK too. i believe have unsligned (assymetric in fact) incentives here. the folks who would have to upgrade are those providing services (internet wide). the folks who want this upgrade to happen are the name producers/sellers. we did the same thing in EDNS0 and that's why i predict a very long tail.
- [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasing dr… Ted Hardie
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… John Levine
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Paul Vixie
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Ted Hardie
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… John Levine
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Paul Vixie
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… John Levine
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… John R. Levine
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Cary Karp
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Xiaodong Lee
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Paul Vixie
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Alex Bligh
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Tony Finch
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Tony Finch
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… John Levine
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Douglas Otis
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Florian Weimer
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Tony Finch
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Doug Barton