Re: [dnsext] DNSEXT closing down soon

Ralph Droms <rdroms@cisco.com> Mon, 05 December 2011 16:38 UTC

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On Dec 4, 2011, at 12:52 AM 12/4/11, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:

> 
> Ralph, 
> 
> 	wrt the "DNS Directorate" - if it is to remain, it would be useful to know
> 	who is on it, and why.  What are the qualifications for joining/removal?
> 	There are quire a few people qho are highly qualified DNS folks who are
> 	not part of said directorate and it would be questionable to leaave such 
> 	a censure board intact w/o due process.  I would argue that if the WG is being
> 	disband, so should the rest of the support heirarchy, save the mailing list,
> 	which is open to anyone.  YMMV of course, but I think leaving a directorate
> 	intact, unaccountable to the  community, is a -really bad idea-.
> 
> /bill

Bill - I disgaree with your premise that the Directorate is a "censure board".  The description of the mission of the Directorate at http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/dns.html is consistent with current practice.  The Directorate is entirely advisory and in support of the IESG rather than any specific working group.

- Ralph

> 
> On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 06:48:45PM -0500, Ralph Droms wrote:
>> I recognize that DNS is a core Internet technology and I appreciate the contributions of the WG to that technology over the years.  At present, it appears that the last new work was taken on the WG almost two years ago, and the remaining charter items Olafur listed in his announcement have been in process for at least two years.  Based on that level of activity and lack of new work in the WG queue, it seems to me to be appropriate to wrap up the final charter items and close down the WG.
>> 
>> Thanks to Ed Lewis for asking a few salient questions.  We will keep the dnsext mailing list open to provide a forum for future discussion of dnsext issues.  I would appreciate any recommendations on how to promote awareness of the dnsext mailing list.  The DNS Directorate will also continue to provide expertise, advice to other WGs and review of IETF documents.  If some issue or issues rise to the level of IETF action, e.g., the work on aliasing, we will consider chartering a single-topic WG focused on that issue.  
>> 
>> Ed: Can you say more about your last question?
>> 
>>   Are all instructions to IANA complete and understood?
>> 
>> - Ralph
>> 
>> On Dec 2, 2011, at 5:43 PM 12/2/11, Doug Barton wrote:
>> 
>>> On 12/02/2011 13:39, Olafur Gudmundsson wrote:
>>>> The chairs have been asked by the AD's to prepare the working group
>>>> for closing early next year.
>>> 
>>> Suppressing my initial (not family-friendly) response, can I simply ask,
>>> "Why?"
>>> 
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