Re: [dnsext] Re: EDNS client IP should be opt-in (Was: I-D ACTION:draft-vandergaast-edns-client-ip-00.txt

Wilmer van der Gaast <wilmer@google.com> Tue, 02 February 2010 21:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dnsext] Re: EDNS client IP should be opt-in (Was: I-D ACTION:draft-vandergaast-edns-client-ip-00.txt
From: Wilmer van der Gaast <wilmer@google.com>
To: Paul Vixie <vixie@isc.org>
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On 2 February 2010 20:51, Paul Vixie <vixie@isc.org> wrote:
> that all depends on the RFC text.  big ISP's sometimes have privacy policies
> and sometimes do not but they do live in some fear of their regulators.  and
> while i expect BIND would implement this feature, we would never make it the
> default.

Note that this is already recommended in the first bullet point in
8.2. Indeed we didn't ever intend this to be an "enabled by default"
feature.


Wilmer.

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Wilmer van der Gaast, Dublin Traffic SRE.
Google Ireland.