Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasing draft
Florian Weimer <fweimer@bfk.de> Tue, 29 March 2011 09:53 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasing draft
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* Ted Hardie: > But the problem remains daunting. Even if DNSEXT creates the perfect record > for sameness, we still have to get apps to check it--and that suggests to me > designing the system for that goal should be a primary consideration in the > design space. The problem is worse: applications routinely do not have access to the public DNS when the proposed sameness or normalization step would have to be performed. For example, I'm writing this message on an IDNA-capable mail client (it will use Punycode for the domain part during submission if necessary), but the system it runs on lacks access to the public DNS. While our network is probably not representative at all, I'm sure that the phenomenon (lack of DNS access) is common on corporate networks. There is something that borders on willful ignorance of this fact. But it is pretty clear to me that you cannot use DNS for protocol version signalling (this is what the IDNA folks really need, it just got perverted to aliasing because an IDNA-specific kludge was not received favorably) when you haven't got access to the DNS at the point where you need the information. -- Florian Weimer <fweimer@bfk.de> BFK edv-consulting GmbH http://www.bfk.de/ Kriegsstraße 100 tel: +49-721-96201-1 D-76133 Karlsruhe fax: +49-721-96201-99
- [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasing dr… Ted Hardie
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… John Levine
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Paul Vixie
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Ted Hardie
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… John Levine
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Paul Vixie
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… John Levine
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Paul Vixie
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… John Levine
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Tony Finch
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Cary Karp
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Xiaodong Lee
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Alex Bligh
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… John R. Levine
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Tony Finch
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Douglas Otis
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Florian Weimer
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Tony Finch
- Re: [dnsext] Some thoughts on the updated aliasin… Doug Barton